Re: gnumeric hangs

[David Shochat <shochat acm org>]

Jens Finke wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, David Shochat wrote:
>
> > When I try running gnumeric, it just hangs and after 15 seconds or so, I 
> > get a little alert box that says:
> >
> > "gnumeric --sm-client-id <very long string of characters>
> > No response to the SaveYourself command.
> > The program may be slow, stopped, or broken.
> > You may wait for it to respond or remove it.
> >
> > I click on the Remove Program button, but that just removes the alert 
> > (the gnumeric process is still there and has to be killed separately). 
> > So it neither kills nor removes it (what do they mean "remove" anyway?).
>
>
> The gnome framework sends a "SaveYourself" signal to all running programs
> at certain intervals. Every Gnome program should then save its current
> state and settings. If you log out of gnome and login in later, all this
> programs get started again with there saved settings (session management
> feature). 
>
> If a program hangs (in this case Gnumeric) it doesn't respond to this
> signal so the gnome framework pops up this alert box. The 'respond' and
> 'remove' options work on the internal list of running programs, which are
> the ones to notify with the "SaveYourself" signal (so remove, removes
> Gnumeric from the internal notification list of the session manager).  No
> process gets killed by these actions.
>
> Hope that clarifies the behaveiour a little bit.
>
> To find out why Gnumeric hangs you should start it from a terminal and
> look through the output messages.
Thank you very much for the information! I actually have "GTK+/Gnome 
Application Development" by Havoc Pennington and your response made me 
think of looking there, and there it is in section 5.5.

Unfortunately, there are no output messages whatsoever. I do see from 
"gnumeric --help" that there is a way to pass a debug level. What is the 
highest debug level I can pass to it? I just tried 10 which was a wild 
guess. I should point out that this problem does not appear to be 
specific to gnumeric. The same thing happens when I try to run 
gnome-hint (I posted a question about that a while back). But abiword 
runs fine. So does gmc. One more data point: I reinstalled the old 
version of gnumeric and it (now) has exactly the same bad behavior. So 
it makes me think there is something wrong with the "gnome framework" 
itself. I have tried reinstalling gnome-core (I seem to have the 
latest), but it installs without error and does not help. Is there 
something deeper than gnome-core I should try reinstalling? I also 
reinstalled the latest gtk+.

-- David