Re: [gnome-love] gnome-vim bonobo component

["James Hamilton" <JAMESH davistl com>]

That all sounds awesome.  I want to help.  However, right now
I am trying to learn enough about components in Gnome to 
write a configurable address book replacement for Evolution.
I am sure some of the knowledge I acquire will bleed over into
Anjuta's components.  I will check out your stuff anyway.

James

John Lenz <wuzzeb yahoo com> 12/06/01 01:47PM >>>
>--- James Hamilton <JAMESH davistl com> wrote:
>> The drop comp stuff is good, and I would like to see
>> it in Vim.  I 
>> posted to comp.editors about that, and have actually
>> considered 
>> developing it myself.  However, there is more than
>> just key bindings 
>> that I miss when I switch from Vim to Scintilla.  I
>> miss the entire Vim 
>> environment, the scripting, the text operators, and
>> the regex engine.  
>> It would just be great if Anjuta worked with Vim. 
>> Then I would use
>> Anjuta, and so would many other staunch Vim
>> supporters.  I don't
>> think Scintilla was really meant to emulate Vi or
>> Vim.
>> 
>> --James
>> 
>I agree!  I have created a GVim bonobo wrapper that
>implements the Desktop::Editor interface.  Let me tell
>you my vision of a great editing enviroment, and you
>can tell me if it is possible right now, or point me
>to where I need to add functionality to make it
>possible :)
>
>First off, I love Vim.  I would like to use Vim as my
>editor.  Vim has support for scripting, folding,
>bookmarking, multiple buffers and split screen
>editing, multiple cut buffers, and a ton of other
>features (such as the menu's) that make programming in
>Vim great.  I would also like to be able to view a
>list of functions and classes, run a debugger, design
>a gui, and have all of these things talk to each other
>and work together nicely.  I see the way to achieve
>all of this is to have Anjuta managing everything.    
> I think along with support for Scintilla as an
>embedded component, Anjuta should support a MDI type
>interface, where the windows that Anjuta opens are in
>fact seperate processes.  (It might already, correct
>me if I am wrong :)  I think making vim into a
>component that is embedded into Anjuta would restrict
>some of the features that makes Vim great.  I also
>think making Vim into a component would be problematic
>if a terminal widget was not used, because this would
>require modifications or a patch to the Vim source.
>
>Vim offers an alternative! :)  In Vim 6.0, type :help
>remote.  Vim implements a client-server protocal that
>travels through the X Server.  When a Vim window
>starts up, it registers itself with the Root window on
>the X Display as a server.  The Vim window acts as a
>command server, allowing any client that is able to
>connect to the X Server to execute commands.  I would
>like to see Anjuta start up, and then whenever it
>needs any editing done, it runs gvim as a seprate
>process, and sends the appropriate commands to the
>window.  I think this is feasible, because the Vim
>protocal allows for the server to send replies back,
>which when combined with the vim scripting language,
>is a powerful combination.
>
>To this end, I have created a GVim bonobo wrapper that
>implements the Desktop::Editor interface.  This
>wrapper translates the bonobo methods to commands that
>are sent to a vim window via the X Display.  I created
>this wrapper just recently for use with CCView.  I
>have not tested this wrapper extensivly.  The wrapper
>works for CCView, but CCView does not use all of the
>Editor methods.  My wrapper does not open up a bunch
>of windows, but opens each new file in a buffer in
>vim, thus we are able to take advantage of Vim's own
>great buffer and split and vertical split support,
>instead of having Anjuta manage the multiple files as
>tabs.
>
>CCView can be found here...
>http://home.xnet.com/~ronjones/ccview.html 
>
>You can find the wrapper here...
>http://www.geocities.com/wuzzeb/gvimbonobo/index.html 
>
>Is it currenly possible for Anjuta to use a "regular"
>(aka non-component) interface for editing?  What would
>it take to add this?
>
>John
>