Re: balsa, the most important mua? (was Re: The future of gnome-pim - and Balsa, too?

[christophe barbé <christophe barbe lineo fr>]

Le lun, 13 aoû 2001 11:36:29, peerceval a écrit :
> le Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:58:19 +0200
> christophe barbé <christophe barbe lineo fr> à ecrit concernant Re: The
> future of gnome-pim - and Balsa, too?:
> >[...]
> >Balsa start nearly in one second.
> >[...]
> 
> hello to all;
> 
> in the discussion about evolution, balsa has been handled as the
> alternative. that's not adequate:
> 
> i'm very sorry, but i had to say that balsa is not really supported by
> their developers: they do what they wan't (ok) without reacting on
> messages (not very polite, but ok) and want their application in the same
> moment to be the(!) gnome mail client (see open office) (silly). here are
> some problems, made known for more than a half year and never korrekted.
> here is the essence of the gnome-installtion-guide comment:
> 

This looks like a troll.
As a small (really small) balsa contributor and mainly as a balsa user I'm
really astonnished by your opinion.
First on the balsa mailing list, everybody is polite and developers take
care of user with install/use problems.

#grep -i -c 'from:.*peerceval' balsa
0

Are you using an another mail address to discuss with the balsa mailing
list ?

I use balsa as my MUA. I use pspell without work-around (out of the box).
My only difficulty here was to find a french dictionnary but this is a
pspell issue.

Balsa use the -Werror in its build system so each warning causes the build
process to failed. This is a problem for some system but allow a better
code. As you have done it you can turn off this with the configure option :
--disable-more-warnings.

> there are some problems which must be solved before you will be able to
> successfully install balsa: Although balsa requires the pspell library,
> its configure-script can't handle the latest versions of pspell but the
> source code itself can (using the workaround offered by pspell itself).
> And the configure script evokes too many gcc-warnings for having a
> successful compilation. For solving the mentioned problems do this:
> 		
> a) install the latest pspell-library
> b) edit the configure script and delete «exit 1» inside of the line where
> can you find «libpspell not found»
> c) instead of the normal configure step call «configure --prefix=$INSTP
> --disable-more-warnings --without-esmtp
> 
> And in version 1.2pre there's antoher highlight: if with th option
> --without-esmtp the configure-run ends in the messages
> 
> checking whether to build ESMTP support... yes
> checking for smtp_start_session in -lesmtp... no
> configure: error: *** You enabled ESMTP but esmtp library is not found.
> 
> silly.

Silly ? You find yourself silly ? Do you really imagine that the balsa team
release snapshot (even if it's a beta) which does not handle smtp
correctly. A MUA without sending capabilities is a non-sense.
Has the idea comes to you that it could be a problem with your system? 

> i'm not very happy with balsa, definitely not. the alternative?
> sylpheed: fast. standard. nice. and simply to install. even in version
> 0.5.2

So you are a happy user, Why are you looking for another MUA?

> perhaps this mail can evoke the right reactions by the balsa developer.

This is a classic method, you say 'Your soft is a piece of ...' and you
expect a lot of people to help you with your broken system. 

> salut bis denne
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