RE: First impressions of new GNOME user, and a few problems

[raster redhat com]

On  9 Mar, Jeremy Malcolm scribbled:
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->  > Because E does not require Gnome, it only adds itself to your 
->  > startup.  If
->  > there is a problem with the way it adds itself, you should 
->  > probably send
->  > a bug report to the maintainer of E, but E should not be 
->  > expected to add
->  > the startup commands for Gnome to your .xinitrc
->  
->  Point taken, but then there should be a Gnome setup script that does
->  it (or rpm, dpkg as applicable for the distributions should do it), to
->  make it easier for the kind of new users who are supposed to be
->  attracted by Gnome.  To tell them "add this line to your .xinitrc" is
->  not enough, because depending on how they are starting X, .xinitrc may
->  not be the correct file.  I am using xdm under Red Hat 5.2, so *all*
->  of the files that E modified (~/.xinitrc, ~/.xclients, ~/.Xsession)
->  were the wrong choice!
->  
->  Also, the Enlightenment package that comes with the Gnome rpm
->  distribution doesn't have load any tools or applets because it relies
->  on Gnome to provide these.  If E modifies your startup script to load
->  Enlightenment but not gnome-session, then you are left with a blank
->  screen that you can do absolutely nothing with (unless your previous
->  window manager still loads)!  This would freak a new user out totally.

actually incorrect - middle mouse butotn ont he root window brings up
E's menu
and 2. you agreed to it editing your file AFTER all the warngins and
messages. That featurtes is designed for people runing e by itself when
you alreayd have another WM runing. you didnt follow gnomes setup
instructions propely - tyring to just run gnome-0session whilst alreayd
logged in is not what you should do.

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