RE: gdm submission

["Fox, Kevin M" <KMFox mail bhi-erc com>]

Well, there is no way to know. If you do bind something like control alt
delete to bring up a login box, someone could always replace the login
program. The only way to be sure is to keep your system locked tight.
ctl-alt-del stuff is psudo security. You think it is secure but it is not.
You could even replace microsofts login box with one of your own. It would
be alot more difficult in windows because the source is not available but it
can be done. Point is that there is no posible way to be absolutely sure.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John St. Clair [SMTP:jstclair@chuma.cas.usf.edu]
> Sent:	Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:44 AM
> To:	Fox, Kevin M
> Subject:	RE: gdm submission
> 
> I think you missed my point. If it merely presents a login box, how do you
> *know* that it is a "real" login or not? I'm not arguing that Gnome
> *should*
> use C-A-D, only that there is something to the fact that in a secure
> system,
> you must *know* that you are really logging on, using the system's login,
> and not someone else's....
> 
> J.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fox, Kevin M [mailto:KMFox@mail.bhi-erc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 2:35 PM
> To: 'John St. Clair'
> Cc: 'gnome-list@gnome.org'
> Subject: RE: gdm submission
> 
> 
> The point is that gnome strives to be easy to use. Having to hit some
> oddball sequence like ctrl alt del to login is and allways will be a bad
> idea. When you need a login box, it should be presented to you. I just
> love
> how when you sit down at an nt box you get alittle window saying hit
> control
> alt delete to login. What the heck... why didnt they use that space for
> something usefull like a login box. :)  Microsoft says that they are
> trying
> to make things easy to use but requireing ctl alt delete for login is not
> easy to use. If someone really wants to persue this issue, add the
> feature.
> but for hevens sake dont make it default.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	John St. Clair [SMTP:jstclair@chuma.cas.usf.edu]
> > Sent:	Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:27 AM
> > To:	Fox, Kevin M
> > Subject:	RE: gdm submission
> >
> > Kevin wrote:
> > ...
> > BUT winblowz  NT (Or should that be OT old technology) ctrl alt delete
> > reboots
> > the computer. This is an expected thing. If you hit ctrl alt del and it
> > does
> >
> >
> > Uh, that's part of the point...
> >
> > John
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fox, Kevin M [mailto:KMFox@mail.bhi-erc.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 1:36 PM
> > To: 'Todd Graham Lewis'; Ian McKellar
> > Cc: 'gnome-list@gnome.org'
> > Subject: RE: gdm submission
> >
> >
> > Ctrl-Alt-Del for login was/is always a bad idea. In all operating
> systems
> > BUT winblowz (Or should that be OT old technology) ctrl alt delete
> reboots
> > the computer. This is an expected thing. If you hit ctrl alt del and it
> > does
> > something different it confuses people. Microsoft in the different
> windows
> > changed what control alt delete does 3 different times. Lets not get
> into
> > that habbit. Why would any one want to hit control alt delete to login
> > when
> > you can just be prompted by a nice pritty login box right away?