Re: SuSE and GNOME

[Michael Perry <mperry znet com>]

Quoting Miguel de Icaza on Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 12:08:36PM -0500:
> 
> So, I saw it with my own eyes.  GNOME as shipped in SuSE 6.1 is broken
> beyond hope.  I do not know what is going on, but the thing is hardly
> usable.
> 
> I have seen detailed reports on GNOME problems with SuSE on this list
> and detailed problem listings.  Could these people please email the
> SuSE maintainers and try to get the fixes into the distribution? 
> 
> They are taking suggestions to improve the GNOME state, but we need to
> send those over.  I am not running SuSE myself now so I can not do this.
> Please, help us.
> 
> Miguel.
> 
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Hi Miguel-

We talked for a bit at the Open Source forum in Austin regarding the state
of SuSE rpms.  Many people are applying the rpms which ship with SuSE which
I have found do not work too reliably here.  There are also rpms that Jan
maintains off of www.gnome.org which seem to work a bit better.  There are
issues which I will summarize:

*sessions are not always saved between sessions.  As an example, sometimes,
I add launchers, or drawers, to the panel and they are not saved between
sessions.  I have found that several things happen here.  Sometimes I think
the session file in my $HOME gets corrupt but other times I remove the gnome
desktop directory and it clears it up.  ImO, this should not happen at all.
*the rpms that suse has done are not compatible with the rpms that Jan has
done.  This produces a number of problems when a person desires to move over
to Jan's stuff.  I have not been able to do this successfully on my SuSE 6.0
system.  This led me to follow your advice and install redhat 6 on my laptop
since I truly love Gnome and would like to see it working at its best.
*the rpms off of www.gnome.org are great but this seems to be a project
which has a lot of life in it.  The SuSE rpms have not been updated since
their release.  This is not good.  There needs to be constant attention to
the state of rpms.  The person releasing RedHat 6 rpms seems to be
continuously releasing new builds.
*The Gnome rpms off of ftp.suse.com need to add new windowmanagers such as
enlightenment and windowmaker as new versions are released.  I am not sure
that this is done there.  

I have other some other comments which I have raised on the suse mailing
list in the past regarding the health of the SuSE Gnome updates.  I have
never applied the SuSE rpms with positive results and since the two groups
of rpms do not play well together; the results can be disastrous when moving
between rpm packs.

I would only ask that there should be a standard for rpms for the
distributions that everyone agrees to.  This would mean that rpms would be
similar in design and not completely ruin the system's ability to run Gnome
if a person mistakenly downloads core parts from another source.

Thats it for now.  Comment mode off.

-- 
Michael Perry
mperry@znet.com
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