Re: [freeqt] Re: opening Gnome to multiple (windowing) systems

Quoting Bertrand Guiheneuf (
> Don't want to start a religious debate, but I'd like to know 
> (at least) Miguel's exact position about the end of the forwarded mail.
> It's not the first time I hear that Gnome is totally opposed to
> support something (even a bit) different of GTK. 
> Mr Robert Roebling <> itself (the guy who writes 
> wxGTK) told me something like that.

this gives a fundemental question: what is gnome? .... it's the people
that write it ... so if a person is actively developing gnome he IS

anyway ... I think that if we start using toolkits not based on GTK the
user interface will suffer from not being very consistent ... and gnome
ui libs will suffer from bloat by supporting too many different toolkits

if all the ui toolkits are GTK wrappers (such as GKT-- or wxGTK or V GTK
port) ... then gnome ui libs only support GTK and then the wrappers can
just make small wrappers around gnome widgets ... if we used several
different core toolkits .. the gnome ui stuff would have to be completely
duplicated instead of just "wrapped" around ...

I don't know much about harmony ... if it had been using GTK it should
be easily possible to make it use the gnome ui libs ...

anyway ... I don't think gnome is closed to ideas and languages at all
just the fact that there is support for languages such as perl, scheme,
objective c ... c++ could be there too ... it just means that there are
not enough C++ people around to use and finish gtk-- or use wxGTK and
do gnome wrappers for it ...

>   Gnome seems unfriendly to a) C++ and b) any other widget set than Gtk.
> (or at least a fair number of Gnomers do, which amounts to the same thing)

see above ...

I think that statement is wrong ... gnome by itself isn't unfriendly ...
because there aren't C++ programmers on the gnome team means that
C++ is not gonna be very much loved ...

as for using otehr toolkits then GTK based ones, see above comments on
the duplication of work, bloat and incosistency arguments for that ...
but there seems to be a fair number of GKT based ones for even C++ that
are popping up


George Lebl <>
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