Re: www.gtkmm.org hosting

[Ross Golder <ross golder org>]

On Sun, 2006-07-09 at 14:37 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 21:47 +0700, Ross Golder wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 21:17 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2006-06-22 at 10:53 +0700, Ross Golder wrote:
> > > > OK, I've relaxed your homedir perms to 701, set up the virtualhost
> > > > (window:/etc/httpd/sites.d/gtkmm.org.conf) and restarted apache.
> > > > 
> > > > Add '209.132.176.176 www.gtkmm.org' to your /etc/hosts and you should be
> > > > able to test it with your browser. I'd test it myself, but my ISP uses a
> > > > bloody annoying transparent caching/proxy, so I'd have to fiddle about
> > > > with VPNs or my own proxy to test it myself from here and I'm in a rush
> > > > atm. Sorry.
> > > 
> > > That works, though SSI is not turned on.
> > > 
> > 
> > Sorry, my fault. An egregious typo in the Apache conf. Try again.
> 
> Thanks. That seems to work now.
> 
> Would this be the final location for the website files?
> 

I was going to set up a mechanism to auto-update the site from CVS, as
we have for several other sites. I was putting this off because we are
planning to move to Subversion shortly, so I didn't want to have to do
the job twice, iyswim. Please feel free to send a reminder about this to
'support gnome org' so a ticket gets set up and assigned to me so I
don't forget, and I'll try to complete this when things are ready and I
have a few moments.

> Without wanting to appear at all ungrateful for your own hard work, it
> seems like we might not have the sysadmin resources to really support
> extra web sites. For instance, I'm not convinced that everything is
> documented enough that I wouldn't have to wait a few weeks to have the
> website restored in the event of another server hack/failure. Am I wrong
> about this?
> 

No, you're quite right - we're not quite SourceForge ;)

Currently, we have a small team of volunteer sysadmins, who would rather
concentrate on keeping the core GNOME services up and running than try
to manage all the requests involved in maintaining a-hundred-and-one
different projects domains names, websites and mailing lists.

We do offer these services to those that need them and will always do
our best to do as professional a job as possible (as can be expected for
spare-time volunteer sysadmins). We obviously can't provide guarantees
and service level agreements.

> I might decide to use my own hosting account for this, though I'm afraid
> of how much bandwidth it could cost me, and other gtkmm developers would
> probably prefer not to depend on me either.
> 

This is entirely your decision to make, depending on the needs of your
project and the resources available to it. Given the choice between
paid-for hosting (with an SLA, support contract etc) and free web
hosting on the GNOME servers, I know which I'd choose ;^)

--
Ross