Re: Discrepancies with CLDR

[Fòram na Gàidhlig <fios foramnagaidhlig net>]

Is there a specific reason why locals can't participate in the CLDR? We
found an organization to sponsor us for our locale so we would get
enough votes, and we are being listened to.


Sgrìobh keld keldix com na leanas 27/07/2015 aig 12:30:
> Funny, I would say the opposite. Our data is reported by local people,
> where CLDR are managed centrally, somtimes against advice from locals.
>
> Best regards
> keld
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 08:36:56AM +0100, Fòram na Gàidhlig wrote:
> > If in doubt, I would go with the CLDR, because that is what the CLDR is
> > for. Note that they have a new major release coming up soon, so maybe
> > best wait with any changes until that has gone through. If anybody of
> > the affected languages thinks that the CLDR data is wrong, I recommend
> > that you get involved with them, because their data will be used very
> > widely (glib, Wikipedia, Microsoft... just to name a few)
> >
> >
> >
> > Sgrìobh Shaun McCance na leanas 26/07/2015 aig 22:17:
> > > Recently, I was working on updating the plural forms used inside
> > > yelp-xsl localization stylesheets. I looked two places to make sure I
> > > got things right: the Unicode CLDR project, and the PO files in gtk+.
> > > Usually they said the same thing, and I was happy. Sometimes they
> > > didn't, and that confuses me.
> > >
> > > http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/latest/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html
> > >
> > > I'm sending that list of discrepancies in case it's something that needs
> > > to be followed up on. I'm not saying anybody's wrong or there's a bug. I
> > > just think the differences are curious.
> > >
> > > am as bn gu hi kn mr pa si
> > > ==============================================
> > > GTK+ says plurals=2; plural=(n != 1);
> > > CLDR says the singular includes 0
> > > (This is by far the most common discrepancy.)
> > >
> > > br
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ says nplurals=2; plural=n > 1; (singular+zero, and plural)
> > > CLDR says 5 forms: one, two, few, many, other
> > >
> > > cy
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ says nplurals=2; plural=(n==2) ? 1 : 0;
> > > CLDR shows 6 forms: zero, one, two, few (3), many (6), and other
> > >
> > > dz
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ says nplurals=2; plural=(n!=1);\
> > > CLDR says one form
> > >
> > > fa
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ says nplurals=1; plural=0;
> > > CLDR says two forms: singular+zero, and plural
> > >
> > > he
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ says nplurals=2; plural= (n!=1);
> > > CLDR says four forms: one, two, many, other
> > >
> > > is
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ says nplurals=2; plural=1;
> > > CLDR says two forms, but singular is n%10=1
> > >
> > > lv
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ says nplurals=3;
> > >   plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n != 0 ? 1 : 2);
> > > CLDR says 3 forms: zero(%10), one(%10), and other
> > >
> > > mk
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ declares one more form than it calculates:
> > > nplurals=3; plural= n==1 || n%10==1 ? 0 : 1
> > > This isn't the case in other mk.po files in GNOME, so this is probably
> > > just a type that should be corrected.
> > >
> > > ms
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ doesn't have forms, so defaults to en rules
> > > CLDR says 1 form
> > >
> > > tr
> > > ======
> > > GTK+ says nplurals=1; plural=0;
> > > CLDR says two forms: singular, and plural
> > >
> > >
> > >
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