Re: Damned Lies shows active member as inactive in translation team page
From: Nilamdyuti Goswami <ngoswami redhat com>
To: shankar prasad <prasad mvs gmail com>
Cc: GNOME i18n <gnome-i18n gnome org>
Subject: Re: Damned Lies shows active member as inactive in translation team page
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:46:26 +0530
On 16-09-2013 12:37 অপৰাহ্ন, shankar
prasad wrote:
Nilamdyuti,
I second your opinion!
But as a work around, before translating any file, do
remember to add a comment in that particular module along
with "Reserve for Translation" action. This will keep you
active in Damned Lies!
In resume: your user were moved to inactive,
but you're actually active; and you want to contribute.
Maybe the inactive coordinator (Amitakhya Phukan) can
move you to another rank, like committer or coordinator.
Or any other Damned Lies maintainer can do it for you.
I Nilamdyuti Goswami (user name: ngoswami) started
doing Assamese translation for Gnome UI from
Gnome-3-0 and since Gnome-3-2 I have always
maintained the UI status at 80% or more to make
sure it gets released in Assamese. If the git logs
are checked, it will be found that I am the only
active member in the Assamese team who has been
sincerely doing UI translations for the past two
years. After Gnome-3-8 was released with 86% UI
translation status for Assamese, I didn't
immediately start working on Gnome-3-10 as it's
status was also more than 80% (something like 85%
if I correctly remember). I just kept the master
branches updated from time to time and later on I
kept it on hold for some time. Now, since
Gnome-3-10 release date is approaching, I thought
of updating the important packages. Although even
if I don't do so, it will still get released in
Assamese as the status was 80% when I started
updating and presently it is 81%. Now, my question
is why does Damned Lies shows an active member as
inactive considering a very short inactivity time?
What will a new translator who is keen on joining
the Assamese translation team think when he visits
the team page? Will not he think that there hasn't
been any activity in the Assamese translation for
Gnome since time immemorial? :-) Suddenly his love
for his mother tongue will come into life and he
will think about reviving a already active team (I
don't know about others, at least I am doing my
part, this is open source, we cannot force someone
to work! :-) ) If some old mail threads are
checked it will be found that a similar incident
happened to the Marathi translation team. The team
coordinator for Marathi had to list down the
package names to which he had recently made
commits and provide some other links to prove the
new guy that he his active and that the new guy
was misleaded. A bug was also filed in this
context for Kannada translation team: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701190
So, what I feel is that Damned Lies should not
show an active member as inactive so quickly.
Moreover, when clicked on the member's name in the
translation team page, the member's contributions
should also be shown in whatever convenient manner
possible instead of just showing the "Team
Membership". I am not saying that it should show
the member's entire git log! :-) but at least it
can show the releases to which the member has
contributed. This will avoid a newbie from getting
misleaded and get in touch with the right person
to start contributing.
