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Tomas, There are a couple of things it seems you fail to understand. 1) Participation in GNOME Translation Project is not "democratic". Each language coordinator sets his team rules. He may try to make it "democratic", but translation coordinator word IS the final word. If you're not happy with that, you don't need to contribute. You can try to make it change in local lists, but defying a team coordinator's authority on GNOME coordinators list will not get you friends nor support; 2) LT's coordinator has done nothing wrong. He can decide wording and terminology, he can change submitted translations without having approval of translator (it's called "revision process") and he even was fast reviewing the translation; 3) Besides not accepting coordinator authority, you have disrespected the GTP top people pointing you to the Code of Conduct, that you fail to abide; 4) Regarding terminology, in 1995 you could try to "force" a term. In 2010, some terms are so widely used (most of the time derived from the english term) that if you try to use a supposedly "correct" term (from an academic point of view) no regular user will understand it and, in the end, that will be a disservice to the Lithuanian people. So, if you believe you have grounds to request a coordinator change and try to make a takeover on the team, present those reasons. Do note that I don't see any reason for you to do so and you would surely lose that attempt... Otherwise, please stop being rude and writing to this list about this issue. It's disrespectful, it's going around in circles and will not get you anywhere. Duarte "HappyGuy" Loreto "Don't worry, be happy!" http://perolasdagestao.blog.pt/ > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:48:53 +0300 (EEST) > From: "Tomas Kuliavas" <tokul users sourceforge net> > To: gnome-i18n gnome org > Subject: Re: modifications in Lithuanian gnumeric translation > Message-ID: <48711 4e3f1be3 1279309733 nsm avilys eik lt> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 > > 2010.07.16 22:09 ?ygimantas Beru?ka ra??: > > Hi all, > > > > Pn, 2010 07 16 19:23 +0300, Tomas Kuliavas ra??: > > > >> Is voting highly subjective term? I was not asking much on my page about > >> gnome. Prove that "failas" has absolute majority in mailing list. Simple > >> and does not require any external statistics. He could not do that in > >> those bug report links you posted, because I suspect that 800 vs 300 and > >> 58% vs 36% is not absolute majority. > >> > >> He might be able to do that now, when he and other "failas" gang members > >> dominate major OSS translation projects. Yet somehow he does not want to > >> take that risk and hides behind "translation team rules" that he wrote > >> himself. > > > > First of all, I don't have to prove anything to anyone. Secondly, an > > opinion of people on any third-party mailing list in question is not the > > deciding criterion on any issue by any means. > > Which one of us is being democratic and who is /censured/ Palpatin. You > don't want response from others and want to keep everything the way you > like. If you went democratic way and respected work of others, you would > not have this argument with me. > > > Thirdly, the "failas vs. byla" story has gone into oblivion for good. > > It is not gone. You just want to be that way, because you managed to have > upper hand in pushing your version. > > > 2) KDE, OpenOffice.org, Mozilla's projects, and many others all > > use "failas" (not to mention Microsoft, you seem to hate so much). > > Which ones are controlled by your friends and had translation pushed > against original translator. Maybe R.Kudelis might point at translation he > corrupted and so happy about it. > > > 500 hundred strings is OK. However, as far as I am concerned, the > > behaviour which includes FUD, personal attacks (of which I have had > > enough from you), provocations (such as the above), egocentricity > > (credits, credits, credits; when no one even thinks of questioning > > them!), > > How much you got from AKL for Lithuanian Gnome? > > > That is why Gintas said that he can remove your contributions (there is > > nothing in GPL, that would force him to do this, though), if you are > > unable to cope with having something changed in the name of consistency, > > and other reasons he, as a team leader, might have. It is a pity, > > though. If I were him, I would second Ihar and care more about users, as > > GPL's spirit is also in users' favour in this case. See? Gintas is too > > kind. :) > > He also pointed that he does not have to and does not want to. This only > means that he won't remove it. It is OK to accept my work, but it is not > OK, when I raise my voice about unacceptable changes in my work. Which one > of us is being bad guy in this context? > > If someone again points are code of conduit, this is personal. You would > act the same way, if someone /censured/ something you are emotionally > attached to. Don't judge others, if you don't want to be judged same way. > > -- > Tomas The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. |