Re: [Fwd: New module decisions for 2.28]

[Gil Forcada <gforcada gnome org>]

Seems everything is already there (I just removed the krb5) but a
question remains:

Should we move libgdata to desktop or should we create a new sub-set for
external deps (and then move all external deps that have translations
there)?

Cheers,

El dc 22 de 07 de 2009 a les 17:54 +0200, en/na Andre Klapper va
escriure:
> Please update damned-lies accordingly.
> 
> Thanks,
> andre
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Von: Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org>
> > Reply-to: desktop-devel-list gnome org
> > An: devel-announce-list gnome org
> > Betreff: New module decisions for 2.28
> > Datum: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:06:33 +0200
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > The release team met on Sunday to see how sunburnt the various members
> > were. There were certainly big differences. Andre was bright red, while
> > some who shall stay anonymous were, hrm, untouched by the sun.
> > Afterwards, we managed to find a few minutes to discuss the new module
> > proposals.
> > 
> > Many thanks to the people who contributed to the discussion on the list,
> > and to the authors and maintainers of the proposed modules!
> > 
> > 
> > Short summary
> > =============
> > 
> > In:
> >   gnome-bluetooth (desktop)
> >   gnome-disk-utility (desktop)
> >   libgdata (external dependency)
> >   libseed (bindings)
> >   DeviceKit-disks (external dependency)
> >   WebKit/GTK+ (external dependency)
> >   libchamplain (external dependency)
> > 
> > Out:
> >   krb5-auth-dialog
> >   icontool
> > 
> > General note about the hal migration: some modules (like
> > rhythmbox/banshee, even if not part of the GNOME modulesets) will rely
> > on udev in the future. This means they will need some work for
> > non-Linux-based OS. Help is needed to make sure this migration goes
> > smoothly for those platforms.
> > 
> > 
> > Details
> > =======
> > 
> >  + gnome-bluetooth (desktop)
> >    - good doc, even an experimental port to mallard
> >    - works great
> >    => approved
> >    => bluez becomes an approved external dependency
> >    => has a runtime dependency on obexd
> > 
> >  + gnome-disk-utility (desktop)
> >    - stub documentation for the palimpset utility
> >    - replaces gfloppy (in gnome-utils, already removed)
> >    - needs a string review (techy ones, missing comments, etc.)
> >      . Matthias can work with David on it next week
> >    - Linux-only for now (but this is more related to DeviceKit-disks)
> >    - optional dependency for gvfs right now
> >    - provides libraries with no guarantee for API/ABI stability
> >    => approved
> >    => non-Linux-based OS won't be able to use it unless DeviceKit-disks
> >       is ported there. We encourage people to work on those ports to
> >       offer the best experience to GNOME users on those OS.
> > 
> >  + libgdata (desktop)
> >    - good api doc
> >    - required for the current version of totem youtube plugin, and maybe
> >      later by evolution
> >    - some worries about the protocol being only used by Google at the
> >      moment (on non-free services)
> >    - we certainly want to allow users to access their data, though
> >    - technically not needed in the desktop
> >    => approved as external dependency
> > 
> >  + krb5-auth-dialog (desktop)
> >    - reactive maintainer
> >    - minimal doc
> >    - suggestion to integrate it in seahorse or gnome-keyring
> >    - no reply from the community
> >    - neat tool, but that's not something that end users will directly
> >      install themselves.
> >    => rejected because it doesn't really fit the desktop set
> >    => suggestion to integrate it in seahorse, though
> > 
> >  + libseed (bindings)
> >    - was mainly rejected because of gjs vs seed for 2.26
> >    - gnome-js-common was created to offer a common js module between gjs
> >      and seed
> >    - still, for reasons that are independent from the gjs and seed
> >      teams, there are technical differences that makes it hard to write
> >      code that can be used with both gjs and seed
> >    - gnome-shell will likely stay with gjs, but seed people offered to
> >      port it to seed
> >    - we want people to start using js in GNOME now since it will likely
> >      play an important role for the future
> >    => approved
> >    => people should write code that also works on gjs when possible,
> >       since we might later decide that gjs is more appropriate
> > 
> >  + DeviceKit-disks (external dependency)
> >    - clearly the right way forward
> >    - DeviceKit-disks is not yet available on non-Linux systems
> >    - it requires recent udev & kernel
> >    - many things can already be done with gvfs only (no need for hal or
> >      DeviceKit-disks)
> >    => approved
> >    => it's preferred to keep a hal backend when possible (instead of
> >       just removing it) for portability reasons
> > 
> >  + WebKit/GTK+ (external dependency)
> >    - good work done to fix issues
> >    - still not perfect for accessibility
> >      . we trust the WebKit/GTK+ team for fixing this
> >    => approved
> >    => the WebKit/GTK+ team needs to continue work on accessibility
> >    => modules with WebKit ports should merge the relevant branches (eg,
> >       yelp)
> > 
> >  + libchamplain (external dependency)
> >    - people like it
> >    - needs to be ported to clutter 1.0
> >    => approved if ported to clutter 1.0
> > 
> >  + icontool (external dependency)
> >    - no reply to the mail by Frederic (on June 10th)
> >    - should replace icon-naming-utils
> >    - mostly useful for one-canvas work (but from discussion with
> >      artists, it's not completely ready yet)
> >    - would the icontool-render be used during "make dist" or "make
> >      install"?
> >    => rejected as it's not really needed now and we didn't get replies
> >       to questions (it will probably be accepted when it's ready)
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Vincent
> > 
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