[Fwd: New module decisions for 2.28]

[Andre Klapper <ak-47 gmx net>]

Please update damned-lies accordingly.

Thanks,
andre


-------- Forwarded Message --------
> Von: Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org>
> Reply-to: desktop-devel-list gnome org
> An: devel-announce-list gnome org
> Betreff: New module decisions for 2.28
> Datum: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:06:33 +0200
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The release team met on Sunday to see how sunburnt the various members
> were. There were certainly big differences. Andre was bright red, while
> some who shall stay anonymous were, hrm, untouched by the sun.
> Afterwards, we managed to find a few minutes to discuss the new module
> proposals.
> 
> Many thanks to the people who contributed to the discussion on the list,
> and to the authors and maintainers of the proposed modules!
> 
> 
> Short summary
> =============
> 
> In:
>   gnome-bluetooth (desktop)
>   gnome-disk-utility (desktop)
>   libgdata (external dependency)
>   libseed (bindings)
>   DeviceKit-disks (external dependency)
>   WebKit/GTK+ (external dependency)
>   libchamplain (external dependency)
> 
> Out:
>   krb5-auth-dialog
>   icontool
> 
> General note about the hal migration: some modules (like
> rhythmbox/banshee, even if not part of the GNOME modulesets) will rely
> on udev in the future. This means they will need some work for
> non-Linux-based OS. Help is needed to make sure this migration goes
> smoothly for those platforms.
> 
> 
> Details
> =======
> 
>  + gnome-bluetooth (desktop)
>    - good doc, even an experimental port to mallard
>    - works great
>    => approved
>    => bluez becomes an approved external dependency
>    => has a runtime dependency on obexd
> 
>  + gnome-disk-utility (desktop)
>    - stub documentation for the palimpset utility
>    - replaces gfloppy (in gnome-utils, already removed)
>    - needs a string review (techy ones, missing comments, etc.)
>      . Matthias can work with David on it next week
>    - Linux-only for now (but this is more related to DeviceKit-disks)
>    - optional dependency for gvfs right now
>    - provides libraries with no guarantee for API/ABI stability
>    => approved
>    => non-Linux-based OS won't be able to use it unless DeviceKit-disks
>       is ported there. We encourage people to work on those ports to
>       offer the best experience to GNOME users on those OS.
> 
>  + libgdata (desktop)
>    - good api doc
>    - required for the current version of totem youtube plugin, and maybe
>      later by evolution
>    - some worries about the protocol being only used by Google at the
>      moment (on non-free services)
>    - we certainly want to allow users to access their data, though
>    - technically not needed in the desktop
>    => approved as external dependency
> 
>  + krb5-auth-dialog (desktop)
>    - reactive maintainer
>    - minimal doc
>    - suggestion to integrate it in seahorse or gnome-keyring
>    - no reply from the community
>    - neat tool, but that's not something that end users will directly
>      install themselves.
>    => rejected because it doesn't really fit the desktop set
>    => suggestion to integrate it in seahorse, though
> 
>  + libseed (bindings)
>    - was mainly rejected because of gjs vs seed for 2.26
>    - gnome-js-common was created to offer a common js module between gjs
>      and seed
>    - still, for reasons that are independent from the gjs and seed
>      teams, there are technical differences that makes it hard to write
>      code that can be used with both gjs and seed
>    - gnome-shell will likely stay with gjs, but seed people offered to
>      port it to seed
>    - we want people to start using js in GNOME now since it will likely
>      play an important role for the future
>    => approved
>    => people should write code that also works on gjs when possible,
>       since we might later decide that gjs is more appropriate
> 
>  + DeviceKit-disks (external dependency)
>    - clearly the right way forward
>    - DeviceKit-disks is not yet available on non-Linux systems
>    - it requires recent udev & kernel
>    - many things can already be done with gvfs only (no need for hal or
>      DeviceKit-disks)
>    => approved
>    => it's preferred to keep a hal backend when possible (instead of
>       just removing it) for portability reasons
> 
>  + WebKit/GTK+ (external dependency)
>    - good work done to fix issues
>    - still not perfect for accessibility
>      . we trust the WebKit/GTK+ team for fixing this
>    => approved
>    => the WebKit/GTK+ team needs to continue work on accessibility
>    => modules with WebKit ports should merge the relevant branches (eg,
>       yelp)
> 
>  + libchamplain (external dependency)
>    - people like it
>    - needs to be ported to clutter 1.0
>    => approved if ported to clutter 1.0
> 
>  + icontool (external dependency)
>    - no reply to the mail by Frederic (on June 10th)
>    - should replace icon-naming-utils
>    - mostly useful for one-canvas work (but from discussion with
>      artists, it's not completely ready yet)
>    - would the icontool-render be used during "make dist" or "make
>      install"?
>    => rejected as it's not really needed now and we didn't get replies
>       to questions (it will probably be accepted when it's ready)
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Vincent
> 
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