Re: Document vs. File menu (was Re: RGSG)

[John R Sheets <dusk smsi-roman com>]

Dan Effugas Kaminsky wrote:
> 
> >> Score->Print?  So I guess we'd see Score->Transpose, Score->Quantize,
> >> Score->Change Timing, and generally anything else that any other menu
> could
> >> have...well, it makes logical sense.  You Quantize a Score, just like you
> >> Print a Score, right?  And you Transpose a Score, just like you Open a
> >> Score, right?  Forget about that I/O stuff, the user doesn't get it
> >> anyway...
> >
> >Exactly my point.  Are you agreeing, or being facetious?
> 
> Uh?
> 
> So you're saying there's no such thing as a menu entry that doesn't belong
> in the leftmost menu, A.K.A. the SINGLE MOST MEMORIZED AND UNDERSTOOD
> SEGMENT OF THE ENTIRE MENUBAR?

[ snipped 4K of "everything fits in the Document menu" ]

I said no such thing, and am getting tired of you shoving words
into peoples mouths.  Your argument is along the lines of "A man
can get 10 years in jail and pay up to US$100,000 for committing
this crime....thus, ALL men who commit this crime will spend 10
years in jail and be fined US$100,000."  Just because a menu item
can _conceivably_ fit under a given menu heading does not mean
that the programmer _should_ put it there.  Completely the
opposite.  For that matter, why don't we just put every menu item
into the foot menu because they are all covered by the broad
scope of "used by this application", and dispense with the
menubar altogether?

This is exactly the kind of useless noise that is generating the
150+ mails per day on this list.  Now, could you please try to
restrict your postings to short, concise, meaningful,
constructive, logical (did I leave out anything?) responses,
rather than this high-volume flood of poorly supported
suppositions directed at individuals rather than the list as a
whole?

If I'm out of line here, someone please let me know.  All I can
say is, like Preben, I can't handle much more of this noise.

John