Re: [gnome-flashback] Debug-ability; getting gnome-panel 3.8 out

[Lanoxx <lanoxx gmx net>]

On 24/09/13 17:21, Philipp Kaluza wrote:
> Hi Lanoxx,
>
> Am 23.09.2013 20:21, schrieb Lanoxx:
> > Hello Philipp,
> >
> > thank you very much for working on this and taking the time to write
> > this comprehensive summary. As I am still using gnome-panel this is
> > really appreciated.
> >
> > I have tried a couple of times to build gnome-flashback with jhbuild but
> > each time I gave up after a few hours. There were always a multitude of
> > little problems starting from knowing which moduleset to use to missing
> > library and dependencies. The biggest problems were that when I try to
> > build the gnome-3-8 moduelset jhbuild is trying to pull in a whole lot
> > of dependencies which are not actually necessary for gnome-fallback and
> > which are also installed in the correct version on my system.
> Didn't you get my email on 2013-08-01 ? I had tried to explain why
> jhbuild does what it does.
>
> Also Dmitry had suggested on 2013-08-15 to just build a git checkout
> standalone. Have you tried this ?
Yes, I got those mails. It did help me a bit but then I didnt have any 
time anymore. I will try the approach with building directly from git 
and report how that went. Hopefully I find time for this on the weekend.
> > It would be really be great if there was a small guide on howto build
> > and install gnome-flashback. If possible with a minimum of additional
> > libraries. You may correct me if I am wrong, but from what I saw of the
> > commits in git, it does not seem there have been a lot of changes which
> > make newer versions of libraries necessary. In theory shouldnt it be
> > possible to reuse most of the libraries installed on a Ubuntu 12.10.
> No, at least evolution-data-server needs to be from version 3.5.3 or
> newer; other components will probably have similar constraints.
>
> Let me try a small guide on how to build on Debian unstable (similarly
> for a current Ubuntu):
>
> sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-panel
> git clone git://git.gnome.org/gnome-panel
> ./autogen --prefix=/usr/local/ --enable-maintainer-mode
>    (install lib...-dev packages that are needed, possibly from experimental)
>    (iterate until all dependencies are satisfied)
> make
> sudo make install
> sudo ln -s /usr/local/share/xsessions/gnome-fallback.desktop ln -s
> /usr/share/xsessions/gnome-fallback.desktop
> (and, if you use the distribution's gnome-session:)
> sudo ln -s /usr/local/share/xsessions/gnome-fallback.desktop ln -s
> /usr/share/xsessions/
> sudo ln -s
> /usr/local/share/gnome-session/sessions/gnome-flashback.session
> /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/
>
> If the make step above fails, try "make V=1" and report the output here,
> we'll try to help you.
>
> At the time of this writing, only experimental has gnome-session 3.8,
> which is the one you should test with, if at all possible for you. :)
How about I also build gnome-session from git? Would that be a good idea 
or will it make everything worse?
The way how I imagine the build process to work, would be to build 
gnome-panel, gnome-session and gnome-applets my self and use the system 
libraries for everything else.

One other question, can you recommend a good document that explains the 
relation ship between session management (e.g. gnome-session), the 
window manager (e.g. metacity) and the shell (e.g gnome-panel). So far I 
only understand what the window manager does, but gnome-session is 
mostly magic for me.
> Cheers,
>    Philipp