Re: Request for very small UI change in Tomboy
- From: "Sanford Armstrong" <sanfordarmstrong gmail com>
- To: "Elijah Newren" <newren gmail com>
- Cc: release-team gnome org, Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org>, gnome-doc-list gnome org, Calum Benson <Calum Benson sun com>
- Subject: Re: Request for very small UI change in Tomboy
- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:53:42 -0800
On 2/9/07, Elijah Newren <newren gmail com> wrote:
On 2/9/07, Sanford Armstrong <sanfordarmstrong gmail com> wrote:
> On 2/9/07, Calum Benson <Calum Benson sun com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 06:10 -0800, Sanford Armstrong wrote:
> >
> > > Normally I'd agree. But I would guess that most Tomboy users who
> > > haven't tried the Sticky Notes applet never will. So for 80% of our
> > > users, the option just takes up space. This plugin is really meant as
> > > a migratory path for existing Sticky Notes applet users.
> > >
> > > Obviously I can change the patch to disable the option if people think
> > > that follows HIG better.
> >
> > The normal rule of thumb (although the HIG doesn't explicitly say this)
> > would be that hiding menu items is only appropriate if they're going to
> > remain hidden for the lifetime of a particular application instance,
> > from startup to quit. If the user can potentially do something to
> > enable/disable them in the meantime, the menu item should be shown and
> > enabled/disabled as required.
>
> In this patch, if I start Tomboy and there are no sticky notes, it
> will not bother checking again until I restart Tomboy. So the menu
> option will either exist or not exist for the entire lifetime of the
> Tomboy instance. So it seems that we do comply with this rule of
> thumb.
>
> > (Not really familiar the Tomboy UI, but one way to get around the whole
> > issue might be to have a generic "Import" option that let you import
> > notes from a variety of sources, one of which might be Sticky Notes.
> > The Import option would always be available, assuming you could import
> > from simple things like text or html files, and the Import dialog could
> > check for and list only those sources that were available at that moment
> > in time.)
>
> Yes, that would be better. But right now we only offer import of
> Sticky Notes. ;-)
Does this affect documentation? If not, Calum's arguments and the
smallness of the change are good enough for me for 1 of 2 approvals.
It might be a good idea to add a few words to the documentation
(copied below). There are no screen captures to update.
* * *
Sticky Notes Import
When this plugin is installed, the Tools menu will have the "Import
from Sticky Notes" option available.
Use this option to import notes from the Sticky Notes application that
is available in prior releases of GNOME. This option has been included
in Tomboy to provide an upgrade path for users who would like to
migrate from Sticky Notes to Tomboy for their note taking purposes.
* * *
I did not realize I needed 2 approvals to make this change, and
already committed. I can revert the change when I get home in a few
hours. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Thanks,
Sandy
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