Re: Gnome Live Wiki Day (and other wiki-ish ideas)?

[Claus Schwarm <c schwarm gmx net>]

Hi!

I just added a wiki page about library.gnome.org using your text (Sorry).

 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Library

Hopefully, it will serve as a point where all suggestions and ideas
about library.go are collected.

Maybe we can get a designer to make a mockup when the functionality is
described. With an existing design, it might be easier to find someone
developing it.

Otherwise we will never get this started I'm afraid.


Cheers,
Claus


On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:52:48 +0000 (GMT)
Joachim Noreiko <jnoreiko yahoo com> wrote:

> (cc-ing to web list)
> --- John Stowers <john stowers lists gmail com> wrote:
> 
> > We are in a bit of a chicken-and-the-egg dance at
> > the moment with
> > developer.gnome.org, live.gnome.org and
> > library.gnome.org. I think that a
> > valuable first step would be to transfer over all
> > relevant content from
> > developer.gnome.org into the wiki. I am presuming
> > that
> > library.gnome.orgwill be wiki based, and for ease of
> > maintenance I
> > think moin-moin (what
> > live.gnome.org runs) is probbably a good choice.
> 
> We do currently have a bit of a mess on our hands.
> 
> AFAIK, the idea is that library.gnome.org will be
> autogenerated web versions of our documentation: the
> User Guide, the accessibility guide, the sysadmin
> guide, the HIG, the GDP handbook, the Style Guide and
> other developer docs.
> So it wouldn't be a wiki.
> It may be that the documentation *is* one day written
> collaboratively on the web. But it probably won't
> exactly be a wiki, more of sort of online docbook
> editor.
> But library.gnome.org should display the stable
> versions.
> In an ideal world, we'd work on this hypothetical
> wiki, and every so often push a point release so that
> library.gnome.org updates with fresh stuff. We'd
> probably want library.gnome.org/userguide to match
> what people currently see on their GNOME desktop, for
> example.
> They could of course also access the wiki and see the
> work in progress -- the unstable version of the docs.
> 
> > If we were going to (hypothetically) host a wiki day
> > I think the following
> > things would be required prior to that happening
> > 1) Identification of categories. That way
> > classification and movement of
> > pages into categories can be done (see how
> > extensively and well they use
> > categories on wiki.ubuntu.com)
> > 2) Some kind of go ahead from the admins of
> > developer.gnome.org that it is
> > dying a slow death and it would be a step in the
> > right direction to put the
> > still relevant content into live.gnome.org
> > 3) Some kind of tentative go ahead from the
> > authority on the plans of
> > live.gnome.org that it may well use moinmoin also
> > and any wiki formatting
> > done on live.gnome.org would not be wasted time
> > because it may be reused on
> > library.gnome.org
> > 4) Brainstorming about how the worlds best wiki
> > (live.gnome.org) should be
> > structured
> 
> A wiki day would be a great idea anyway. Wikis always
> need cleaning up. :)
> As we move content to live.gnome.org, we have to
> remove it from the corresponding pages on
> developer.gnome.org and either turn the pages into
> redirects or put a link to the wiki page.
> 
> Though... I do wish we'd not picked moin for our wiki.
> It has horrible syntax: [" "] is really awkward to
> type links. I'd have far preferred MediaWiki or
> something with the [[ ]] syntax and indented lists
> that don't need me to count spaces. :(
> 
> 
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