Re: New ideas about the report engine :-)

[Carlos Perello Marin <carlos hispalinux es>]

> > > > > > Well, i have thinking another time about the report engine, and i think
> > > > > > that we could define all the report objects at the IDL file
> > > > > > (GdaReportObject, GdaReportLine, GdaReportPicture, etc.) then the only
> > > > > > doubt i had was: who could we derivate from GtkObject?, the i go to the
> > > > > > IRC at #gnome and Miguel tell me that the best thing we could do is use
> > > > > > the BonoboObject as our base class, and i will do it (if you don't have
> > > > > > any trouble, of course).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > No, you shouldn't use BonoboObject for the report part, since although
> > > > > Bonobo has been now splitted into a X and a non-X libraries, using
> > > > > Bonobo makes a program depend on gnome-libs, so this is not what we
> > > > > want.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry, Rodrigo, but as Miguel de Icaza told me at the IRC, Bonobo will
> > > > be Gnome independent (and somewhere at gnome site I also read it), then
> > > > i don't know why you said that. Bonobo will be Gnome independent and X
> > > > independent. At this moment it depends on Gnome because the GtkObject
> > > > (as libgda).
> > > > 
> > > well, AFAIK (maybe something has changed in the last weeks, but not that
> > > I know), Bonobo is now splitted into 2 libs, libbonobo and libbonobox,
> > > but both are distributed in the same package (same RPM or deb), which
> > > depends on gnome-libs. Of course, the libbonobo does not use any X
> > > library, but to have it installed, you need gnome-libs and X libs
> > > installed.
> > > 
> > > If you know this has changed, it's ok for me to use BonoboObject as the
> > > base for all the objects, not only in the report part, but in libgda-*
> > > also. But if not, we shouldn't add this dependency.
> > > 
> > 
> > When i talk with Miguel, i tell him that i need Gtk/Gnome independence,
> > and then i need a way to get a GtkObject to use it at IDL file. He told
> > me that for that we must use BonoboObject because it parts from
> > GtkObject and at the near future from GObject and it will completely be
> > separated from Gnome/Gtk.
> > 
> > 
> > What you tell me now is new for me, but, i think that we could ask it.
> > But what i don't understand is.. if you say that libbonobo "does not use
> > any X library", but "you need gnome-libs and X libs", you are telling me
> > two different things!!!!
> > 
> > 
> no, what I'm saying is that although libbonobo is X-independent, it's
> not distributed independently of Bonobo, but with Bonobo (that is, it's
> the bonobo-x.xx.rpm), which DOES depend on gnome-libs. That is, to
> install the non-X part of Bonobo, you need to have gnome-libs installed,
> or, of course:
> 
> rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force bonobo-x.xx.rpm
> 
> which is, IMO, bad to say to system admins.
> 
> But as I said before, if you're sure that this won't happen (that is,
> that there will be a bonobo-x.xx.rpm and a bonobox.x.xx.rpm), I agree in
> using BonoboObject.


IMO if they make the rpm packages this way (i doubt it) they will have
some troubles with other developers, and I will propose not to do this
barbarity, if is need i will rewrite this spec. If you see the RedHat's
vim package, they provide a console vim package and a vim-X11 package
and for all the common part they gave the vim-common, all those packages
are generated from a unique vim*.src.rpm.

I don't talk about it with Miguel, because i don't know it, but i don't
think they do it that way.

> 
> cheers


Bye.