On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 09:01, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > known to miscompile lots of different apps. Further on we've had > problems getting proper backtraces because you strip binaries even when > the user specifies -g in CFLAGS and so on. Hi Kjartan, There is a feature to turn off stripping by setting FEATURES="nostrip" or adding it to their FEATURES line in /etc/make.conf. Normally, for development packages, we enable debugging and disable stripping by default. This is on a per-package basis, mainly for development packages such as epiphany, gnumeric-1.1.x, etc. On our bugzilla, we request all users to paste the output of "emerge info" which contains all the relevant compiler flags, gcc version and glibc versions that the user has set. This may be useful when you encounter Gentoo users with suspicious problems. No matter how many warnings we put, we still get users that come around with outrageous CFLAGS who are asking for it. We find that optimisation problems are processor and gcc version specific. For instance, we give big warnings about not using -march=penitum4 because of optimisation problems with gcc-3.2.x. > What I'd like is for you guys to register this e-mail address in > bugzilla.gnome.org so we can Cc: you when we think this is a problem > with your packages so we can get some constructive discussion going. I > think this would help make both our products better in the long run. I believe such an account has been registered now. I believe this is a good idea so we get an sample on the problems that maybe arising and not being reporting on bugs.gentoo.org. I hope we can work more closely and help nail down some Gentoo specific problems. I would probably say Gentoo users would typically be prominent given the fact that we stick very close to library and application releases and thus bugs being reported earlier than any other distribution. I hope that GNOME developers can take advantage of that rather than being suspicious of them. Although I know how frustrating it is chasing down bogus bugs :( Thanks for your email. Cheers, -- Alastair 'liquidx' Tse >> Gentoo Developer >> http://www.liquidx.net/ | http://dev.gentoo.org/~liquidx/ >> GPG Key : http://dev.gentoo.org/~liquidx/liquidx_gentoo_org.asc >> FingerPrint : 579A 9B0E 43E8 0E40 EE93 BB1C 38CE 1C7B 3907 14F6
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