Re: Ang: Re: Pictogram support (Montreal Summit)

Hi Mats, Peter and all,

And what about support for Ruby Annotation in existing protocols for IM
- will that be found anywhere?
So on the wish list: An IM protocol with full support for Ruby
Annotation - including graphics as part of the text - also in the
annotation. But until then what?



-----Peter Korn <peter korn oracle com> skrev: -----

    Hi Cesar,

    Helping people with language and cognitive disabilities communicate
    with each other and with folks who don't have those disabilities is
    one of the tasks under the AEGIS project
    []. In particular, AEGIS partners SU-DART
    and FPD in Sweden (staff of whom are cc-ed: Mats, Lars, Bengt, and
    Annika) are doing that work.

    To that end, they are building fonts out of the CCF symbol sets that
    they developed for helping folks in Sweden with language and
    communication impairments. Initially these fonts would be used as
    part of a text editor - displaying symbols alongside the
    English/Swedish/Spanish/... words representing the same concepts (to
    be done as a plug-in to / LibreOffice). But the
    intention is that they could be used for direct communication - with
    any communication application that supported multi-byte characters.

    I'll let Mats/Lars/Bengt/Annika describe this in further detail.



    On 10/25/2011 12:52 PM, Cesar Mauri wrote:
    Hi all,

    Recently I suggested to Meg Ford, who was attending the Montreal
    to ask Telepathy developers whether it would be possible to add
    for pictogram based communication.

    Here is my suggestion:

    Thinking in people with language and communication disorders (i.e.
    people not able to read/write due to cognitive/mental disorders), it
    would be interesting to have a IM client able to compose, send and
    display messages made up pictograms + text.

    So, messages would look like this:

    Also, it would be useful to add TTS support in order to hear
    messages written in plain text (which could be also useful for blind

    There had been some efforts in that way:

    And here Meg's answer:

    I spoke to one of the developers of Telepathy about this, and
    here is
    what he said:

    Currently Telepathy does not support this type of feature. For
    users cannot send emoticons that they have drawn themselves.
    you would need to write a library for this. If you are willing to
    a library, they would be happy to have this feature.

    Secondly, they recommend that you write a seperate app for this
    but use the Empathy contact list. They recommend that the feature be
    accessed through the accessibility menu.

    Regarding the feasibility of implementing such a library on top of
    the supported protocols, Meg also told me:

    Do they all support sending icons? I assume that all of the chat
    do, but you would need to ask the Telepathy developers. I know
    enough about
    A.T. to be able to explain what this type of feature does from a
    perspective, but I am not a programmer. Guillame Desmottes said
    that you
    would need to write an API to support this type of program.
    Again, you can
    speak to him about it. He said that some chat programs support,
    for example,
    sending user-made icons such as these . He
    that you would need to write this type of A.P.I. for Telepathy in
    order to
    support the feature you are proposing. However, it would be best
    if you
    would discuss this with him if you want more details.

    And so here I am. My questions is:

    - Do (most commonly used) supported protocols allow for sending
    arbitrary images along with text? Otherwise it would be pointless
    to try to write a library for this.


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