Re: 2.6 proposed module: dasher
- From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59-gap srcf ucam org>
- To: Peter Korn <Peter Korn Sun COM>
- Cc: Bill Haneman <Bill Haneman Sun COM>, Murray Cumming Comneon com, gnome-accessibility-list gnome org, release-team gnome org
- Subject: Re: 2.6 proposed module: dasher
- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:33:51 +0000
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 09:22:35PM -0800, Peter Korn wrote:
> One of the hallmarks of your project has been the impressive user studies
> you have done on typing performance. What would be ideal, in my opinion,
> is if you were to put together a Dasher-based interface to dialog boxes,
> toolbars, HTML content, etc., and get feedback from users as to how this
> worked for them.
Code for this is now in CVS. In a similar way to GOK, Dasher simply
provides useful widget information for the application or window which
currently has focus. Arguably this is most useful with the -o switch to
Dasher, which causes Dasher to default to text entry mode and gets rid
of the edit box. At that point Dasher is a dedicated Gnome accessibility
application. Possibly this should be the default in Gnome builds?
On the other hand, I'm not sure that Dasher is ever going to adapt well
to something like, say, Gnumeric.
Is Mozilla's widget decently accessible yet? GtkHTML ought to work with
the current code, though I haven't checked.
(Actually, there's one issue with the current code - it only properly
works if Dasher refuses focus. I can't see it being terribly useful
except in the case of Dasher being used for entering text into other
applications at which point it refuses focus anyway, so I don't see that
as a major problem)
> Dasher as a text entry replacement is tremendous. But until Dasher is able
> to provide a complete alternate navigation system of a desktop for a user,
> how can the Dasher user be independent? Should Dasher be a companaion
> application to GOK? Is there interest in making Dasher a desktop-wide
> assistive technology?
Dasher in its current form allows users to start and manipulate the
majority of applications to some degree of functionality. At present,
however, it does also require the ability to focus the desired window or
text entry area. This is (a-ha ha ha) just a small matter of coding.
Apart from that, I don't think that as of now Dasher users would be
significantly handicapped compared to, say, GOK users.
I think it's a worthwhile inclusion in 2.6, since it demonstrably does
increase the range of users we can support. By the 2.8 timeframe that
range could be increased further, but I think this is equally true
regardless of whether it's included now or not.
Matthew Garrett | mjg59 srcf ucam org
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