Re: Mozilla 1.7 rc1 issues.



Hi Luke, Tom,

As you have deduced, Mozilla's present caret navigation leaves much to be desired. This is being worked on. Alas, I don't have an estimate of when it will get significantly better (beyond "as soon as possible").

I'd like to open a related topic: what do you (and the other Gnopernicus users on this alias) want in a web browsing interface? Caret navigation is critical for mouseless operation (a mouseless user must be able to do anything a mouse-ed user can, including selecting text to copy to the clipboard), and good feedback from Gnopernicus to caret navigation should result in a basic level of blind/low-vision accessibility (especially if you include the usual Ctrl-arrow, home/end stuff).

Now, is that sufficient?

Sufficient or not, what would you add if you could add something to this? Is there an existing set of keybindings and approach to the problem you particular like and think would be a good model (e.g. JAWS browsing, Window Eyes browsing, Home Page Reader, etc.)?


Regards,

Peter Korn
Sun Accessibility team


Luke Yelavich wrote:
Hi Tom
At 06:01 AM 30/04/2004, Tom and Esther Ward wrote:

Hi, List.
Recently, I grabbed the Mozilla 1.7 rc1 source code, and compiled it.
I am having several issues I would like to discuss about it.
I noticed that while tabbing through the page I can get spoken feedback on
the frame titles, but none of the links on the page get announced.


I had the same problem as well, even under GNOME 2.6.

I also noticed on forms the buttons will get announced, but the edit fields are
ignored and are not spoken.


The same here also.

When carot browsing is activated I had assumed it would allow me to uparrow and down arrow through the page elements or at least the text on the pages.
Again I get no speech feedback.


Since I have a bit of sight, I have found that the carrot seems to start at the bottom for some reason, and pressing CTRL+Home doesn't always help, and you don't know when you are at the top of the page.

Another thing that I think I have mentioned earlier, is that the carrot browsing mode doesn't take tables into consideration at all. One has to know where the carrot is, and press CTRL+Right Arrow, or Right arrow alone to get to the other section of the table.

Is there anyone or any specific list I should address Mozilla accessibility
with? I would like to get involved with testing Mozilla, help find
accessibility issues, and report those problems to the developers for future
fixes/changes.


http
://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-accessibility
Is the mailing list.

Currently, I linked Mozilla with gnome 2.4, but plan to update to Gnome 2.6
in the next couple of weeks. Does it make a large difference with Mozilla
weather I use Gnome 2.4 or Gnome 2.6?


It will perhaps be a bit more responsive, but that is about it I think.

Luke

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