[g-a-devel] Gail next steps (was Re: GTK and ATK)
- From: Piñeiro <apinheiro igalia com>
- To: gtk-devel-list gnome org, gnome-accessibility-devel gnome org
- Subject: [g-a-devel] Gail next steps (was Re: GTK and ATK)
- Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:48:18 +0200
On 05/10/2011 04:28 PM, Benjamin Otte wrote:
So I've been thinking about accessibility in GTK for a while (since it
broke all the time during the unstable GTK 3 development to be exact).
And I've been wondering how to fix the somewhat sad state of the code
we do have. Unfortunately I have no idea how to solve it, but I have
an opinion about what the problem is.
The TL;DR version is this:
I think the problem is the fact that we support a separate API for
Now for the long version:
Well, some weeks have passed and seems that nobody wants to add anything
new to this thread, so I will try to add some conclusions.
First, thanks for this review and proposal. But it is a long term
solution, and means so many changes on a lot of different modules, so if
it finally implemented, this is a task to be planned for GTK4/glib3.
Although this also applies to ATK2.
Summarizing we have on the table two long term proposals:
* Benjamin one about merging ATK and GTK, so the accessibility
support towards AT-SPI2 would be more similar to current Qt one (WIP)
(although he also implied that the interaction with AT-SPI2 could change)
* A new ATK2 (some of the tasks related to ATK2 here )
In fact, IMHO, some of the issues pointed by Benjamin would be solved by
this  and the gail migration, but lets not talk about it. As I said,
those are long term tasks, and the fact is that the current
accessibility status needs to be improved also in the short and medium term.
I also planned to define those short-medium tasks, but after reading
again some mails, Matthias already did it in this mail , so I will
not repeat that. I will just include that as task 1.5 I would include
refactoring gailtreeview, one of the big problems related to performance
that prevents having a11y enabled as default 
Finally, some of us thought that Benjamin was already looking that,
starting with the gail-to-gtk, and included that here . It seems that
we were wrong to that conclusion. So please, update that section
Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias (API) (apinheiro igalia com)
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