Re: [g-a-devel] Accessible cross-platform toolkit?



Milan,

I'd definitely like to see your issues get resolved. It's always good to ping the Mozilla team on mozilla.dev.accessibility or in irc.mozilla.org #accessibility if there's a Mozilla bug that's important to you which is being ignored that you need addressed.

Hopefully we can get some attention on the XUL accessibility bug you mention. I'd like to talk to you more about what you're looking for in terms of live regions in XUL, but that's probably best done on the Mozilla mailing list.

I'm not sure about the Orca issues but you can always try and ask on the Orca list or irc.gnome.org #orca.

- Aaron


Milan Zamazal wrote:
"AL" == Aaron Leventhal<aaronlev moonset net>  writes:

     AL>  I'm surprised to hear these things about XUL.  Being one of the
     AL>  Firefox developers who made XUL accessible, I can definitely say
     AL>  that making XUL accessible was always very high priority.

This is good to hear.  But the other part of the responsibility are also
screen reader developers and unless everything in the chain works, the
application remains with problems.

     AL>  Which bugs are reported but getting ignored?

Mozilla bug #400854 was reported against keyboard navigation, but it's
closely related to accessibility.

I've reported some bugs to Orca BTS, but it seems they are actually XUL
problems, so they could get missed.  See GNOME bugs #495303 and #492740.

Additionally, there is problem with status bar reading.  I asked about
it on Orca mailing list, but without any answer, so I've forgotten to
report it.  Now I believe it's actually XUL bug because I can't see any
events on status bar changes in Accerciser.  See
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2007-October/msg00200.html.

I think the other accessibility problems are missing features, not bugs,
either in XUL (e.g. live regions) or in Orca (e.g. support for `grid'
navigation).  The rest are general XUL programming features
(e.g. problems related DOM tree changes) unrelated to accessibility.

To finish with something nice about XUL I must say that whenever I asked
about something on XUL newsgroups, people there were very helpful and
provided useful answers very quickly.

Regards,

Milan Zamazal

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