Re: [g-a-devel]Nautilus menu labels

[Dave Camp <dave ximian com>]

The desktop frame's menus and toolbars are hidden, should they still be
showing up in the AT's?

-dave

On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 18:54, Mario Lang wrote:
> Dave Camp <dave ximian com> writes:
> 
> > Hrm, that UI file is only be merged for the desktop window, not the
> > normal windows.  Are you seeing this problem for all windows?
> No.  I only observe it for the Desktop frame.  Adding label="File" and
> so on makes the labels appear again, but I did not verify if this
> activates shortcuts.
> 
> > On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 17:19, Mario Lang wrote:
> >> HI.  While poking around in AT-SPI I realized that Nautilus is the
> >> only app I've found so far which has no names for it's menus.  Actual
> >> menu-items and submenus are labeled, but the top menus aren't.
> >> 
> >> I now found that /usr/share/gnome-2.0/ui/nautilus-desktop-icon-view-ui.xml
> >> is the reason for this, quoting the file:
> >> 
> >> <menu>
> >>         <!-- By re-labelling these submenus to names without underscores, we
> >>              prevent the user from bringing up the otherwise-invisible menu bar
> >>              menus on the desktop from the keyboard. Setting the labels to "" in
> >>              code does not work (presumably Bonobo bug), but doing so here does.
> >>         -->
> >>         <submenu name="File" label=""/>
> >>         <submenu name="Edit" label=""/>
> >>         <submenu name="View" label=""/>
> >>         <submenu name="Go" label=""/>
> >>         <submenu name="Bookmarks" label=""/>
> >>         <submenu name="Profiler" label=""/>
> >>         <submenu name="Help" label=""/>
> >>         <submenu name="Preferences" label=""/>
> >> </menu>
> >> 
> >> Now, this looks like bad behaviour from an accessibility standpoint to me.
> >> 
> >> First of all, isn't the comment wrong?  If the intention of this
> >> piece of XML is to suppress shortcuts, shouldn't it just really define
> >> the label without using _?
> >> 
> >> Like:
> >> 
> >>         <submenu name="File" label="File"/>
> >> 
> >> What do people suggest to deal with such a thing?  I am trying
> >> to find my way around about how to help fix accessibility related bugs,
> >> so a short intro on how to resolve such issues would be great. File a bug?
> >> 
> >> Or is this actually a valid way of doing things, and the assistive
> >> technologies need to obtain menu labels other than calling
> >> Accessible_getName?
> >