Re: [g-a-devel]Re: inconsistent in gnopernicus event process for HTML input widgets

[Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>]

On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 07:15, Simford Dong wrote:
> Hi Remus,
> 
> Yes, there is much difference between gtk and mozilla toolkits.
> Firstly, Mozilla does not expose the relation (between label and its widget) to at-spi,
> but just return the label name when the widget is requested for getText().
> Secondly, the list-item and its parent (combo-box) are different accessible objects in Mozilla.
> When getText() is requested, list-item just returns the content of current selected item,
> not the name of its parent (combo-box), in other words, the name of corresponding label.
> So maybe Gnopernicus should adjust its event process to make all 
> HTML input widgets work smoothly.

Hi Simford:

I believe that we (meaning the GNOME, Mozilla, and java-access-bridge
teams) should do the work to make our presentations as uniform and
consistent as possible.  If Mozilla is substantially different from GTK+
in the presentation of basic UI elements such as HTML input widgets and
comboboxes, then I think the Mozilla implementations should be adjusted.

Although the gnopernicus heuristics should be as general and flexible as
possible, the UI presentations should also be as consistent as
possible.  I believe that asking gnopernicus to conform to Mozilla in
all cases is unreasonable and will lead to less flexibility and
generality, not more.

The effort to offer the user a consistent presentation should not be
one-sided, it will require effort from all of us.

best regards,

Bill

> 
> There is little change in Mozilla Accessibility since last November.
> You can use your old version for testing or just build it yourself from trunk tree of mozilla.org.
> 
> Best regards,
> Simford
> 
> remus draica wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Thanks for the patch, but not this is the idea in which gnopernicus must work.
> > Possible causes of this behaviour could be:
> >  - diferences between gtk and mozilla toolkits;
> >  - missing some relations between objects or name of the object is not 
> > reported correctly.
> > 
> > I tried to see what the problem can be for this page.
> > My mozilla version is from 07 november 2002 from mozilla site.
> > For the page in atachament, I cannot see any relation between that combo and 
> > label (text before label).
> > 
> > Please send me an adress from where I can donload the most recent mozilla 
> > version for more investigation.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Remus
> 
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