Re: [Gimp-user] Debian 11, updated, Gimp 2.10.22 - bad clone tool

[Dedeco Balaco <dedeco balaco yahoo com>]

Em 17/10/2021 17:30, Liam R E Quin escreveu:
> On Sat, 2021-10-16 at 21:26 -0300, Dedeco Balaco via gimp-user-list
> wrote:
> > Em 16/10/2021 21:14, Liam R E Quin escreveu:
> > > On Sat, 2021-10-16 at 20:45 -0300, Dedeco Balaco via gimp-user-list
> > > wrote:
> > > > What happened to gimp "clone" tool?? It stopped working for me.
> > > Most likely is that you have a selection - almost all operations in
> > > GIMP happen inside the selection, to give control. So, try,
> > > edit/select
> > > none, maybe?
> > This is surely not the case. There is not selection there. The
> > yellow+black image border that we see in the video, means it is not
> > selected.
> It does not mean that - it's showing the layer boundary, but there
> might still be a selection.

The option "Select > None" is disabled. So, i guess there is no selection.


> > (ctrl+shift+a) and repeating again... nothing either.
> OK
>
> Check also in tool options you do't have Registered selected.

Where/what is this?


> At the bottom right of  Tool Options for teh clone tool is a Reset icon
> you can press, see if that helps.

I did this. It still did not work.


> You can also check you have not clicked on anything in Channels - all 3
> (or 4) channels should be selected. Channels is under Windows/dockable
> dialogues/channels

All 3 channels are selected. I did not change it before, anyway. So, no
change.


> You can also right-click the layer and check its  properties.
> Under Switches, only Visible should be checked, and the two Coomposite
> items should both be set to Auto.

Yes, they are (and were before, since i did not touch it).


> Mode should be Normal but i think you already showed that was the case.

Anyway, i confirmed it, now.


> Also, if the image is in Indexed mode, use Image/Mode to change it t
> RGB.

It is already in RGB.


> Also make sure you do not have caps lock  pressed.

Surely it was not pressed. I checked for that yesterday, during my tests
and the video making, at least.


> To compile gimp yourself you will need its dependencies - a recent
> enough version of gtk+ in partcular, as well as gegl and babl  and
> mypaint, the last 3 installed into a custom  prefix such as ~/opt/ to
> avoid breakage with the system one.

Can you give me instructions for that? The error about babl was one that
i did not know how to solve, yesterday. There is a libbabl package
installed, and no package named just babl to install.


> https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Hacking:Building has an overview, you'll
> need to check out the 2.10 branch though,

Is it hard? Or is it that big, enough to make a note about it? I guess
making a checkout is not anything really special. But can i choose the
different path of downloading the source packages distributed as tar.bz
(or similar) files?


> git checkout 2.10
> after the git clone and before doing  anything else.

And the guess i just made, in the previous paragraph, smells wrong. The
checkout 2.10 command will change something, right?

I am attaching the file of the tests i have been doing for this problem.
I used it for the video too. It is small, anyway.

Reading and testing things for this answer, something strange happened:
a source cloning point appeared. I could clone the image from there, as
usual. But i took some minutes and several tries to discover what i did
to change the source point: ctrl+leftAlt+click. Why did this change? For
a suggestion in a forum, i searched all the Gimp shortcuts yesterday.
None were conflicting. And today, the only detail i see to change in
Edit > Keyboard shortcuts is C, the key to activate it - nothing about
changing the keys/things to use it.

So, the problem is "solved". The tool can be used, now, as before. But
with ctrl+left alt, instead of just ctrl. Can i change this? There is
nothing using ctrl+clicks here, i think. No software i use all the time,
and nothing in the window manager either.

Thank you a lot for this detailed answer

p.s.: Liam, you do not need to reply directly to my address. Messages to
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weeks without interests or expectations about it.