Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors
- From: Elle Stone <ellestone ninedegreesbelow com>
- To: gimp-user-list gnome org, gimp-developer-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] GIMP-2.10 and GIMP2.99 are still sRGB-only image editors
- Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 10:23:01 -0500
On 2/4/21 11:27 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote:
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:00 AM Elle Stone wrote:
Participating in GIMP development used to be challenging and enjoyable.
But over the last couple of years my interest in and patience with the
slow pace of progress regarding GIMP color management have dwindled to
the point of disappearing altogether.
Two years ago we had three active developers hacking on GIMP like
there was no tomorrow.
We lost one of them entirely, it seems, and another one is mostly
preoccupied with family business, so we are down to one active
developer and a few new active contributors. We are also approaching
the end of very long and tiresome work on refactoring which is not
done yet. Also, a lot of time of that one active developer was spent
figuring out ways to make development of GIMP sustainable (no details
at this point in time, sorry). So yes, there are several critical
areas where help is needed. Color management is clearly one of them.
I guess if you adjust your expectations accordingly, you will see that
there is no acting in bad faith here.
Alexandre, I'm not sure why you felt obligated to introduce the idea of
"acting in bad faith". It has not escaped my notice that various
developers have cut back or ceased altogether from participating in GIMP
development. I'm not even completely unaware of some of the reasons.
Life happens, sometimes good, sometimes not good. Speaking for myself, I
knew two years ago that I had a limited timeframe in which to hopefully
help bring GIMP color management to the state of being reliable for
color spaces other than sRGB. My family is dealing with some serious
problems, has been for a long time now and will be for the foreseeable
future.
It's good to hear that someone on the team is trying to figure out how
to make GIMP development sustainable. Hopefully that effort includes
figuring out how to prioritize goals based on the editing needs of
potential and actual users.
To the members of the GIMP team who've worked with me over the years on
various color-management/color-science topics - you know who you are, so
I won't name any names - you went out of your way to help with my coding
efforts and you made me feel like a part of the team - that meant a lot.
Thank you.
Speaking of "thank you", Michael Schumacher's "Concepts: Color Science"
tag will be a big help to whichever current or future devs turn their
attention to making GIMP finally be fully and reliably color-managed.
One of the first things I did when starting to work on GIMP color
management, was to compile a list for all open and closed GIMP bug
reports having to do with color management, then read through and
categorize all the bugs, to get an idea of what was already done, what
was left to do, and most importantly to figure out what concerns
motivated the users who filed the bug reports. A "Concepts: Color
Science" tag would have been a big help.
GIMP is important in the free-libre universe of image-editing programs.
But without good color management GIMP is seriously flawed as a
professional-level editing program.
Best wishes to GIMP team members past, present, and future.
Elle
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