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[Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison to Photoshop (AW: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 22)

Hi there!

GIMP compared to Photoshop is like comparing a VW Rabbit to a Bentley. One
difference is: you get the Rabbit for free, for the Bentley, you have to
pay, and you can only lease it. Honestly: most, you can do with Photoshop,
you can do with GIMP - if you are working with RGB. GIMP until now can´t
handle CMYK, work for pre-press, Photoshop can. 
Regards


Klaus Gölker
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Today's Topics:

   1.  Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please!
      (???????? ???????)
   2. Re:  Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please!
      (???????? ???????)
   3.  Gaussian blur confusion (Joshua Oxley)
   4.  Colour Palette (Peter Wells)
   5. Re:  Gaussian blur confusion (Ofnuts)
   6. Re:  Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty please!
      (gimp-users mbourne spamgourmet com)
   7. Re:  Gaussian blur confusion (Rick Kline)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 09:53:39 +0200
From: ???????? ???????  <aclassifiedmail gmail com>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty
        please!
Message-ID:
        <CANYNteYGOR5fn5qg7DHCzx-=5r1NgqTRg-46u4NCPFfv90MTwQ mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

 Hello,
 The last day I've been looking at various reviews of GIMP compared to
Photoshop (on the image editing aspect only, as I know GIMP does not focus
on anything else), yet none seem satisfying enough: they are being a bit
vague with not many specific examples. I have seen some giving specific
examples for brushes, selection tools and... generally editing tools, but
I'm still not sure whether to trust them, because most people write reviews
without actually learning GIMP in such depth as Photoshop.

 In short, they say GIMP lacks the convenience that Photoshop provides on
how to handle tools and brushes. And also, they say the GUI is nicer over at
Photoshop, but I cannot guarantee that.

 On the other hand, I have heard that GIMP has actually been easier to use
and learn and more flexible than Photoshop. They say GIMP is actually
greater at photo editing than Photoshop is.

 You can really see that opinions vary so much, I really don't what to
conclude. Lastly, as I am really clueless about photo editing, I will refer
to the Adobe Photoshop website which contains some short videos (gifs?) that
show how photoshop works. They gave me the impression that the software
works really smoothly (might be false of course, because of its
size) and that it's really simple if you know what you are looking for.
Could GIMP be like that too?

 I really don't know and that's why I ask you, who seem to have a lot of
experience at such, photo editing, software like Photoshop. So, again,
looking only at the photo editing aspect of Photoshop, what kind of things
(tools,brushes, file formats, UI-related) do you think that Photoshop can
handle better/worse than GIMP? I planned to make this mail short but failed
miserably so if you made it this far, I appreciate it!

 Just a fan of FOSS and (GNU)Linux,
 Dimitris Giannos


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 09:58:31 +0200
From: ???????? ???????  <aclassifiedmail gmail com>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty
        please!
Message-ID:
        <CANYNteZenxHn1HUNqih2kcsOCW3=Bgaivk0Z=sfXECtw8C_u0g mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

  Oh, I also forgot the part about Photoshop being available for Tablets and
phones. Could there be similar plans for GIMP?

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM ???????? ??????? <aclassifiedmail gmail com>
wrote:


 Hello,
 The last day I've been looking at various reviews of GIMP compared to 
Photoshop (on the image editing aspect only, as I know GIMP does not 
focus on anything else), yet none seem satisfying enough: they are 
being a bit vague with not many specific examples. I have seen some 
giving specific examples for brushes, selection tools and... generally 
editing tools, but I'm still not sure whether to trust them, because 
most people write reviews without actually learning GIMP in such depth as

Photoshop.


 In short, they say GIMP lacks the convenience that Photoshop provides 
on how to handle tools and brushes. And also, they say the GUI is 
nicer over at Photoshop, but I cannot guarantee that.

 On the other hand, I have heard that GIMP has actually been easier to 
use and learn and more flexible than Photoshop. They say GIMP is 
actually greater at photo editing than Photoshop is.

 You can really see that opinions vary so much, I really don't what to 
conclude. Lastly, as I am really clueless about photo editing, I will 
refer to the Adobe Photoshop website which contains some short videos 
(gifs?) that show how photoshop works. They gave me the impression 
that the software works really smoothly (might be false of course, 
because of its
size) and that it's really simple if you know what you are looking for.
Could GIMP be like that too?

 I really don't know and that's why I ask you, who seem to have a lot 
of experience at such, photo editing, software like Photoshop. So, 
again, looking only at the photo editing aspect of Photoshop, what 
kind of things (tools,brushes, file formats, UI-related) do you think 
that Photoshop can handle better/worse than GIMP? I planned to make 
this mail short but failed miserably so if you made it this far, I

appreciate it!


 Just a fan of FOSS and (GNU)Linux,
 Dimitris Giannos




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:31:25 -0700
From: Joshua Oxley <jmoxley14 gmail com>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion
Message-ID:
        <CANkWDJfTUs9AMBVUz+EUUzCAHUseOtdX-wLpyXTOs0-TJ0i28g mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

So I just recently got into using this platform and I was watching a
tutorial trying to follow along but I just could not get it to work. I
looked into it through the help section and under filters through gaussian
blur it lists FIR & RLE. but when I go to make a selection there is FIR and
IIR no RLE. When blurring an object it drastically increases it in size but
in the video I was watching he blurred the object and it stayed relatively
the same size.. I can't find anything online towards the subject and even
when I click help in Gimp it clearly states the two options should be FIR
and RLE. there is literally no mention of IIR. ANYWHERE.


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:34:55 +0100
From: Peter Wells <mail organbuilder com>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Colour Palette
Message-ID: <2af03c2d-9e8b-6113-2eee-44e5e18d1667 organbuilder com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to find the colour palette. i.e. plain colours for
example to use with bucket fill. I can find all sorts of patterns and
gimmicks but no basic colour palette.

Many thanks,

Peter.



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 17:40:21 +0100
From: Ofnuts <ofnuts gmx com>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion
Message-ID: <cf1356bf-309e-8181-9de0-bf5a25f249a9 gmx com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed

On 21/12/2020 20:31, Joshua Oxley via gimp-user-list wrote:

  anything online towards the subject and even when I click help in 
Gimp it clearly s


The problem is that the blur "units" have changed with Gimp 2.10, IIRC you
have to divide by about 6 the blur amounts for previous versions of Gimp.



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 17:17:06 +0000
From: gimp-users mbourne spamgourmet com
To: gimp-user-list gnome org <gimp-user-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Asking for comparison to Photoshop, pretty
        please!
Message-ID: <e82960e0-7d6e-9297-e0d1-abdca29f41f5 bourne me uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

???????? ??????? via gimp-user-list wrote:

   Oh, I also forgot the part about Photoshop being available for 
Tablets and phones. Could there be similar plans for GIMP?


There's an entry on the FAQ about the lack of Android/iOS support:
https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#will-you-release-gimp-for-android-or-
ios-devices

I can't really help with a comparison.  I only use GIMP occasionally, mostly
for fairly basic things, and have never used Photoshop.

I'd guess part of the problem with comparisons is that someone who uses
Photoshop all the time (so already has a license for it) can just download
GIMP for free, give it a go for a few hours and write a comparison.  But
they'd perceive GIMP as difficult to use because it's not the same as
Photoshop and they haven't got used to the differences. 
On the other hand, someone who happily uses GIMP all the time, and is really
familiar with all its features, isn't so likely to pay for Photoshop just to
compare it to GIMP.  But if they did, they'd probably encounter similar
difficulties with Photoshop.  There may well be some reviews out there
written by people who do use both regularly and can make a fair comparison,
but the difficulty would be finding them (and knowing that you've found
them!)

--
Mark.



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:32:38 -0500
From: Rick Kline <rick kline ms>
To: "gimp-user-list gnome org" <gimp-user-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gaussian blur confusion
Message-ID: <88B94197-2C93-40DC-9988-0092568CAAE1 kline ms>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

As the OP mentioned, the Filter options under Gaussian Blur are Auto, FIR,
and IIRC. The GIMP 2.10 manual does, indeed, list filter options as Auto,
FIR, and RLE, so I can understand the confusion. 

I typically use Auto, so I?ve never noticed the discrepancy before.

Rick
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On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Ofnuts via gimp-user-list

<gimp-user-list gnome org> wrote:


On 21/12/2020 20:31, Joshua Oxley via gimp-user-list wrote:

 anything online towards the subject and even
when I click help in Gimp it clearly s


The problem is that the blur "units" have changed with Gimp 2.10, IIRC
you have to divide by about 6 the blur amounts for previous versions of
Gimp.

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