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[Gimp-user] Workflow through scripting

Hello you all,


Thanks for your answers. Not being a native English speaker, I am not sure
my description of what I want has been very clear.

Here is an example of the work-flow I have with Photoshop and I'd like to
have with the Gimp. I am NOT afraid of coding.


Cursor:

I move the cursor in the general area of where the click is needed without
fussing and then, if a non-moving tool is selected (lasso, brush, stamp
etc.), hitting the arrows moves the cursor 1 pixel (or 10 with a ctrl
arrow, 50 with an alt arrow) allowing me to have the cursor exactly where I
need it to be.

In order to do that I have to write a script that will get the information
about the tool that is selected. Then I have to access the part of the
application that moves the cursor.

If the Gimp doesn't allow me to move the cursor from inside, I'll have to
build a tool working besides it to move the cursor when a non moving tool
is selected. It is basically a listener and a Boolean so that is no big
deal. What I need to know FOR CERTAIN before starting to learn the Gimp is
“Can I do this with the Gimp?” Or “Am I able to ascertain which tool is
selected and send the result elsewhere?”


Layers:

I have very often 500 layers (yeah, you read right, five hundred) in my
images. Some of them have layer masks some don't.

I activate a layer by right-clicking in the image and choose from a list.
Then I want to add a mask if there is none or activate the layer mask if
there is one just by pressing the f3 key.

I can write the code to do this IF IT IS POSSIBLE, So my question is can I
do things like that with the Gimp.


So you see my problem is NOT to unlearn Photoshop as someone said. I have
the time and capacities to adjust a program to my needs, provided the
program can send me the right information. Can I get the information
needed? I meant the program knows what tool is selected or if there is a
layer mask, or what layer is below my cursor. Can I have access to that
information?


Cordialement,

John
<http://johnsmithimages.net> <http://johnsmithimages.net>

http://johnsmithimages.net

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Scripting,   toggles and accessing the application state
      (Rick Strong)
   2. Re:  Scripting,   toggles and accessing the application state
      (Rick Strong)
   3.  Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw, clear,     etc)
      (nekomaster)
   4.  Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw, clear,     etc)
      (nekomaster)
   5. Re:  Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw, clear,
      etc) (Partha Bagchi)
   6.  Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw, clear,     etc)
      (nekomaster)
   7.  GIMP Crashing (Jennings Almond)
   8. Re:  GIMP Crashing (achbarrr gmail com)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 08:51:38 -0400
From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong primus ca>
To: "John Smith" <j smith images gmail com>
Cc: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting,     toggles and accessing the
        application state
Message-ID: <C9F34DC3142546B2AD2456B9DC5931D6@RickPC>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8"

I understand the technique having used Photoshop for 27 years. I have
scripted Indesign, Pagemaker, Corel draw (made it draw pie charts with
callouts from a simple list of data), Word, Excel. It was fun but the time
I spent debugging was better put to use using the other side of my brain
and being creative.

That?s just me.

Sans souci,
Rick

From: John Smith
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 3:16 AM
To: Rick Strong
Cc: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting, toggles and accessing the application
state

I answer on this thread, the other one (no subject) was another mistake of
my part.

So as Jan said we aren't all that fluent in typing.

My personnal reason is that I used Photoshop for 21 years now and I
consider that a program should yield to its users' needs and not the other
way round.

For example I need a toggle when working on an image for which I have a
sketch. Sometimes I need to show the layer with the sketch, then hide it
then show it then hide it to see what is on the sketch that I lost on the
image I built. Pressing F8 repetitively in very rapid strokes generally do
the trick. Don' forget to half close your eyes as well?



Cordialement,

John


http://johnsmithimages.net


2016-09-30 13:54 GMT+02:00 Rick Strong <rnstrong primus ca>:

  Ctrl + Z = Undo
  Ctrl + Y = Redo
  Hold down Ctrl and do a two-finger dance to toggle.

  Rick S.


  Question 3) As far as I understand it, it is not possible to have toggles
  at the moment. Ctrl z twice will cancel 2 actions instead of undoing and
  redoing the last action. Am I right?

  Cordialement,

  John
  <http://johnsmithimages.net> <http://johnsmithimages.net>

  http://johnsmithimages.net
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 08:58:36 -0400
From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong primus ca>
To: "Simon Budig" <simon budig de>,     <gimp-user-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting,     toggles and accessing the
        application state
Message-ID: <39131BE380B5450E9D7987A95624BEF0@RickPC>
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        reply-type=original

Another approach is to duplicate the layer you are working on and put it
above the original layer. Turning the dupe layer on/off will reveal the
changes.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Budig
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 7:24 PM
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting, toggles and accessing the application
state

Rick Strong (rnstrong primus ca) wrote:

Ctrl + Z = Undo
Ctrl + Y = Redo
Hold down Ctrl and do a two-finger dance to toggle.


This is unfortunately not true for german kezboards...

Bye,
        Simon

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 20:11:27 +0200
From: nekomaster <forums gimpusers com>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Cc: notifications gimpusers com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw,
        clear,  etc)
Message-ID: <84183 forums gimpusers com>
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I've been using GIMP to do sprite work for Transport Tycoon, and
everything was
working fine last night when I finished up with a new sprite and exported
it to
PNG.

Today I get on my computer and now I can't do much of anything with GIMP.

I've tried everything I know on new images (made new in GIMP) or old
images I
previously worked on and nothing works.

I tried drawing with the brush or pencil, nothing happens.

I try to select an area and I can't cut or copy the area, and if I try to
paste
something it just pastes nothing/invisible things.

I'f I select an area to delete/clear, when I hit "Clear selection" or the
DELETE
key, the whole layer gets deleted, even if I only selected a pixel.

All this happens whether I'm in RGB or Indexed color mode, on a old layer
or a
new layer, and Reinstalling GIMP did nothing either.

Just to make sure I'm not going crazy or my keyboard or mouse is being
weird, I
tried SAI, MS Paint and Paint.net to see if I can draw, cut, delete, etc
and
everything works in other image editing software, jut not in GIMP.

I'm Running GIMP 2.8.18 x64 on Windows 10 Pro x64 (Build 14393)


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 20:13:39 +0200
From: nekomaster <forums gimpusers com>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Cc: notifications gimpusers com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw,
        clear,  etc)
Message-ID: <84185 forums gimpusers com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Oh and I should mention I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling
GIMP, that
didn't solve the issue.

neither did restarting my computer help, After two restarts GIMP still
isn't
letting me do anything.

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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 14:56:33 -0400
From: Partha Bagchi <partha1b gmail com>
To: nekomaster <forums gimpusers com>
Cc: "gimp-user-list gnome org" <gimp-user-list gnome org>,
        notifications gimpusers com
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw,
        clear,  etc)
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If I have to guess, your personal GIMP folder is corrupt. Delete or move it
somewhere and restart GIMP.

Your personal folder is located at
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.8 or it's
C:\Users\YourUserName\.gimp-2.8


On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 2:13 PM, nekomaster <forums gimpusers com> wrote:


Oh and I should mention I already tried uninstalling and reinstalling
GIMP, that
didn't solve the issue.

neither did restarting my computer help, After two restarts GIMP still
isn't
letting me do anything.

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 20:59:03 +0200
From: nekomaster <forums gimpusers com>
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Cc: notifications gimpusers com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Suddenly can't do anything (cut, paste, draw,
        clear,  etc)
Message-ID: <84188 forums gimpusers com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


If I have to guess, your personal GIMP folder is corrupt. Delete or
move it
somewhere and restart GIMP.

Your personal folder is located at
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.8 or it's
C:\Users\YourUserName\.gimp-2.8


I went and reset my tool preferances and that seems to have fixed my
problem.
Now I can draw, cut, paste, and delete again.

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 19:35:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jennings Almond <j_almond bellsouth net>
To: "gimp-user-list gnome org" <gimp-user-list gnome org>
Subject: [Gimp-user] GIMP Crashing
Message-ID: <1723603119 2718249 1475350539928 mail yahoo com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I have GIMP 2.8 and windows 8.1. If I open more than one file and try to
move one with the left-right, up-down icon, GIMP crashes. ?I thought I
might "overload the 8.2 version with a more current version GIMP 8.2.16.
?It did't work. ?So, I thought I would uninstall GIMP altogether and
reinstall the newer version.. ?To my unpleasant surprise, the directory
still calls it a 2.8 version and when I reloaded it anew, I still had the
same problems; it did not work.. I've had this problem with no other vision
of GIMP.
I realize that since GIMP is free, I should not complain. ?I still have
one question: When they have a program that works, why do their programmers
keep fiddling with it until it does'nt work?
Jennings Almond

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 20:23:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: achbarrr gmail com
To: gimp-user-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Crashing
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It can happenned to all win app . you can try older version that working
stable.





Dari: Jennings Almond

Terkirim: Minggu, 2 Oktober 4.45 AM

Subjek: [Gimp-user] GIMP Crashing

Kepada: gimp-user-list gnome org



I have GIMP 2.8 and windows 8.1. If I open more than one file and try to
move one with the left-right, up-down icon, GIMP crashes. ?I thought I
might "overload the 8.2 version with a more current version GIMP 8.2.16.
?It did't work. ?So, I thought I would uninstall GIMP altogether and
reinstall the newer version.. ?To my unpleasant surprise, the directory
still calls it a 2.8 version and when I reloaded it anew, I still had the
same problems; it did not work.. I've had this problem with no other vision
of GIMP. I realize that since GIMP is free, I should not complain. ?I still
have one question: When they have a program that works, why do their
programmers keep fiddling with it until it does'nt work? Jennings Almond
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