Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints

[Ryan Stark <effluxion googlemail com>]

"Do you really use it ? Ergonomically speaking, Gimp is now an xcf editor."

Gimp is an image editor that can import or export whatever you want
but has it's own savable format for all the layers and other data to
store for later editing. Hence the differentiation of saving and
exporting.

"Print shops ask for png, jpeg or tiff, not psd"

So Gimp is no problem here then.

On 12 September 2012 15:35, maderios <maderios gmail com> wrote:
> On 09/12/2012 03:50 PM, jfrazierjr nc rr com wrote:
> > > I use .xcf files but my friends, my family members and most people, I
> > > think, don't use .xcf.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I think you have just about FINALLY hit the point.  I am NOT a
> > developer for GIMP, but I am enthusiastically in support of this new change
> > so that I CANNOT loose my multi-layer composition without explicit consent
> > as could (and did a few times) in previous versions of GIMP.    I am
> > speaking for myself here, but I would say "GIMP wants people to use GIMP's
> > native file format".   There are a large number of reasons for this, but
> > saving multi-layer compositions is a key one.
> >
> > I suspect another reason is to attempt to force recognition by print
> > shops.  Ask how many print shops support psd files but not xcf?   I would
> > bet that number would be>  20:1 and one way to change that would be to try
> > to push the xcf usage among professional artists who use such print shops
> > far more than the average joe blow on the street.
>
>
> Print shops ask for png, jpeg or tiff, not psd
>
>
> > > They need an image editor, not an xcf editor.
> >
> >
> > And these same joe blow users are NOT the intended audience of GIMP as has
> > been stated like....oh... 500 times or so...
> >
> > > People will leave the world of free software to turn to proprietary.
> >
> >
> > Yep, and that's their right... why are you pushing so hard to keep them
> > with a software that is not targeting them as it's core demographic?
> > Especially when it's not a commercial project where anyone makes money from?
>
>
> Strange and interesting point of view... Your message to these people is "go
> out". Welcome in the Happy World of Free Software... Happily, you're not
> representative. Free Software philosophy is opening, not closing.
> About GNU/Linux philosophy
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
> I hope that gimp does not become a cathedral
>
> > > Gimp is no longer the "universal Swiss army knife " of image editing,
> > > it's a fact.
> >
> >
> > Umm... what are you smoking?   The change in question did not REMOVE any
> > functionality for editing images.   It did not REMOVE any functionality as
> > to what format files could be saved/exported to.  It only moved
> > functionality to create a CLEAR distinction between "Saving" to it's native
> > format, and "Exporting" to every other format.  More importantly as
> > mentioned several hundred times, it reduced the code complexity AND(as much
> > as possible barring power loss or computer crashes) now prevents one from
> > accidentally loosing a multi-layer composition(which is the most important
> > "feature")
>
> Do you really use it ? Ergonomically speaking, Gimp is now an xcf editor.
>
> Greetings
> --
> Maderios
>
>
>
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