Hi!Forwarding an email by Fulvio. It was rejected by the mailing list system because the original images were too big. I deleted the originals (which will be in the repository in the end) before forwarding and just kept the smaller version for feedback from the list.
Jehan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Forward of moderated message Date: 2017-10-03 19:53 From: gimp-gui-list-bounces gnome org To: gimp-gui-list-owner gnome org Hello Jehan, Hello everybody. This is my proposal for the next or one of the next dev splashcreens. I refined it a little bit and i cut the texts. It is ok for me to run for the dev version. If there will be a chance for the stable version, I’ll be glad to run for it too (in case there will be a contests or something similar). For now it is ok the dev version. Hope you’ll like it. Have a nice day. Fulvio. Inviato da Posta [1] per Windows 10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 21:47:31 +0200 From: Jehan <jehan girinstud io> To: FMM <blackfea gmail com> Cc: gimp-gui-list gnome org Subject: Re: [Gimp-gui] R: R: Suggestion about the loading window Message-ID: <a26f364923efbf9a8e678ee20e3d26ec girinstud io> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Hi Fulvio! Also do you want to go for a dev release then? If so make it "2.9" indeed. And we'll commit your image either in the next dev version or the next-next (we'll see depending on the other contributor who proposed also a nice image on IRC). No problem there. If you want to try for the stable GIMP as you said in your previous email, write "2.10" instead. But once again, I cannot promise you anything. Nothing has been decided yet for the 2.10 splash screen and I'm sure we'll have many people wanting to contribute a splash. Maybe we'll do a vote, a contest, give priority to close contributors? I have no idea. So what will it be? :-) Jehan On 2017-10-02 21:27, FMM wrote:
Hello Jehan.
Thank you.
I subscribed (this time I did it).
Ok. Got it. I'll place the 2.9 text only.
I'll send the images soon.
Thanks a lot again.
Fulvio.
Il 02 ott 2017 8:34 PM, "Jehan" <jehan girinstud io> ha scritto:
Hi Fulvio,
Sorry I didn't see your 2 last emails from Thursday until now. I
just discovered them in my spam box.
Also you should really subcribe to the mailing list and send there.
If it had been there, I would have seen it immediately. And also
someone is proposing us another dev splash screen right now on IRC.
So I guess whoever can gives us a finale image first will be
featured next. I don't know? (but I'm sure we'll have at least 2
more dev releases anyway)
On 2017-09-28 12:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote:
Hello Jehan.
I checked the font and it is released under the ?SIL Open Font
License?, as shown in
https://www.fontsquirrel.com/license/panefresco [1] [1]
So it is free to use.
Ok.
About the image copyrights I?d choose CC by-sa:
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ [2] [2]
Ok.
So it will be kept free.
About the Stable/Dev version?
I thought about it. I got more self-confidence about the image.
So
proposing it for the stable version is ok too.
What do you think?
I don't really want to discuss the stable version right now because
I am not the only one to decide. We'll have to discuss what we
should do then. So I don't want to say anything which would give
false hopes.
Please check the texts in the image, tell me what to
insert/correct or
remove (these ones I put below the logo itself and the number of
the
release).
The version is: 2.9.6 (2 dots). Also for the next release, it would
be 2.9.8 (and next again, 2.9.10). You could also just write 2.9.
Then you don't have to bother. Also I don't think the copyright text
is really necessary under the image.
Once done I?ll refine a little the image and I?ll send it to
you
in various formats and dimensions.
Ok.
Thanks.
Jehan
About my name for the CC specs:
Fulvio Massimo Mariani
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Fulvio.
Inviato da Posta [3] per Windows 10
DA: Jehan
INVIATO: marted? 26 settembre 2017 13:54
A: FMM
OGGETTO: Re: R: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window
On 2017-09-26 02:37, FMM wrote:
Hello Jehan,
Thanks for the answer. Glad it looked nice.
What a difficult question!
Due to the fact that I'm a completely new contributor and in your
team
you probably have artists with whom you had long term
collaborations,
I'd like to run for a dev release, it would be great enough for me.
In
the case people will go crazy for this splash, and you'll
absolutely
want it (or its mood) for the 2.10, in this case we'll update the
splashscreen or find a solution, but again, the dev is ok for me.
Anyway I'll try to contact the guys that made the font, just to be
100% sure that it can be freely used.
Ok tell me when you are sure, and then I'll ask Mitch to have your
splash as the next image.
For the image license, sure there is no problem.
Which license do you choose? If you don't know these well, here are
links:
- CC by-sa: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ [2]
Basically similar to GPL (GIMP license) in that you ask people to
keep
your authorship and derivative are allowed as long as they keep the
same
license.
- Free Art: http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ [3]
Basically same as CC by-sa (even compatible now).
- CC by: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ [4]
You only ask for keeping your authorship, and allow derivatives to
be
in
any license the reuser wishes.
- CC 0: https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ [5]
You don't even care about your authorship anymore. That's basically
some
kind of public domain-like license.
Any of these will be fine for an artwork in our repository.
Regards,
Jehan
I'll give updates soon about the font.
Have a nice day.
Fulvio.
Il 26 set 2017 1:49 AM, "Jehan" <jehan girinstud io> ha scritto:
Hi Fulvio!
On 2017-09-26 01:16, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote:
Hello, Jehan.
I worked on a spashscreen, and i try to submit it.
This is what i got.
Facing the composition of this Gimp icon was a pleasure to me.
It is a simplification/stylization of the original Gimp logo.
I used a font called Panefresco, that should be free to use.
Hope you?ll like it.
This splash is neat. I could propose you to just commit it for the
next development splash screen (I'll ask Mitch, the maintainer,
just
to be sure, but I'm sure that's ok). If you prefer your work to be
featured on the stable (2.10) splash screen though, I cannot
promise
it at this point because I guess many people would want this. And
if
we were to do just direct decision, maybe we should promote the
artists who contributed a lot.
Maybe better, we could do a contest for the next stable splash
screen, or something like this. I don't know yet.
So do you want just to go for the next dev release? Or you want to
hold on your design for now and hope for it to be in stable?
Oh and by the way, we can accept only Libre Art for the official
splashscreen. Which means you will be asked to agree to license
your
image something suitable (for instance Creative Commons BY-SA or
BY
or 0, or Free Art licenses?).
Anyway nice work. Thanks!
Jehan
GIMP!
Have a nice day.
Fulvio.
Inviato da Posta [1] per Windows 10
DA: Jehan
INVIATO: domenica 24 settembre 2017 00:51
A: gregory grey
CC: gimp-gui-list gnome org; Fulvio Massimo Mariani
OGGETTO: Re: [Gimp-gui] Suggestion about the loading window
Hi,
On 2017-09-23 14:04, gregory grey wrote:
Some stuff in https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/ [6] [1] [3] is
just
atrocious. Pretending you don't see that yourself is just
insulting.
Where did I say anything like this? Where did I even say anything
about
the art at all. I haven't given my opinion on the artworks there,
and
that's on purpose.
To be clear, I am not fond of some of the splash screens either,
but
that's ok. That's not for me (or others) to be the policymaker of
what
is good or not.
Anyway you should consider that putting words in other people's
mouth
can also be considered as "insulting".
You do realize that "fun" and "7 years old level of aesthetics" is
not
the same? One of the things I dig about Darktable is that I can
show
it to PS/LR users without being laughed at.
I don't understand what you want to "show". When we work on
projects,
we
don't show our programs. Nobody care about the programs we use.
They
only consider the finale artwork.
Also calling other people's artworks "atrocious" and "7 year old
level
of aesthetics" can also be considered "insulting", can't it?
It's the icons story all
over again.
I don't understand this kind of statement.
GIMP is made by everyone who wants to contribute. We are seriously
undermanned (I would say "understaffed", but since there are no
salaries
for anyone, and the only 2 people ? Pippin and I ? who are
trying
to get
crowdfunded get bare minimum, that would not be proper to call
anyone
"staff").
Anyone is more than welcome to contribute code, icons, themes,
documentation, website text and images, tutorials, splash screen,
their
time, their skills, and more?
So yeah as a conclusion, there are no "stories". Please if anyone
has
propositions to improve things, be our guests. Contribute. Send
patches
and stuff. This would be more constructive. But please let's
refrain
from insulting others and their work.
Thanks.
Jehan
On Sep 23, 2017 2:37 AM, "Jehan" <jehan girinstud io> wrote:
Hi,
On 2017-09-22 16:29, Fulvio Massimo Mariani wrote:
Hello.
For the record, I had to manually accept your email because you
are
not subscribed to the mailing list. If you want further emails to
be
directly sent to the list subscriber (and not bother admins who
have
to manually accept emails), please consider subscribing:
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list [7] [2] [2]
My name is Fulvio.
I?ve been a Gimp fan since a lot of time ago (I?m a graphic
designer and I do not how to use Photoshop, consider this).
I just downloaded the 2.9 version of the software and checked the
new
features and UI.
All looks nice (and font loading is now much faster), but please,
and
this is the purpose of the post, consider to use a neat, minimal
Logo
opening. The actual loading window is not at the level of the
software
and its specs. Look for a designer to draw and compose a
minimal/material Design for your app loading screen, because of
the
perception of the app starts from this screen (the actual loading
window is not goo, really).
I assume you mean the splash image? What don't you like in it?
That
it is not serious enough?
Though in theory I don't really disagree that some kind of fancy
"simple/minimal" design can be nice, I don't believe this to be
that
important. We had by the past people wanting to make GIMP a
"product", something "professional looking" and whatnot. And this
one experience I am thinking about was not a pleasant experience
to
me, at all. In the end, I appreciate that some people can have
some
fun while making GIMP (especially since it's done on most parts as
voluntary work) rather than making boring corporate images. As
long
as the software itself is actually good, professional and does
well
what it is supposed to do, does it really matter that the splash
image is usually a fun image contributed by various artists?
This is even more true for 2.9 which is a dev version (therefore
allows even more fun), but even stable versions used to have more
or
less interesting/funny designs: https://www.gimp.org/about/splash/
[6]
[1]
[3]
This being said, as I said, our splash screens are indeed
contributed by various artists and we definitely welcome more
contributions there. If you want to propose a splash for a next
dev
version, please be our guest. Next splash could be yours. :-)
Yet know that it won't stop us from also accepting other funky
splash images when they will be contributed as well.
Have a nice day.
I just wanted to suggest something)
Thanks for this. This mailing list is indeed the right venue to
propose a splash screen for a further version.
We look forward to any contribution from you or any artist
(painter, designer, photograph?) who has an idea for a nice
splash
screen. :-)
-- ZeMarmot open animation film http://film.zemarmot.net Patreon: https://patreon.com/zemarmot Tipeee: https://www.tipeee.com/zemarmot
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