Re: [Gimp-developer] Regarding gimp.org website rewamp

[Shlomi Fish <shlomif shlomifish org>]

Hi Rohan,

you should have replied-to-list per my request:

https://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/netiquette/email/reply-to-list.html

That doesn't bode well.

On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:09:43 +0530
Rohan Keskar18 <rohankeskar89 gmail com> wrote:

> Well, If you use React.js a lot of code becomes reusable in the form of
> components, it provides seamless navigation, The site loads faster it has
> good performance, and you can even do server side rendering to make it even
> faster as your site does not have a lot of interactable components and yes
> it can work even though the user has disabled javascript, If we use server
> side rendering.

Apparently there are some React-based static site generators:

*
https://blog.bitsrc.io/9-react-static-site-generators-for-2019-f54a66e519d2?gi=63286d50bf79

Nevertheless, I believe one can extend or override Pelikan (which is what
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/gimp-web currently uses) in a similar
way using plugins/etc.: https://docs.getpelican.com/en/stable/plugins.html ,
and I find python a saner language than JavaScript.

Moreover, there is a case against too much abstraction / over-modularised code:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirection

*
https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/fortunes/show.cgi?id=linus-torvalds-about-indirections

* https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/11/11/the-law-of-leaky-abstractions/

* https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/12/11/lord-palmerston-on-programming/

Can you point to any concrete code smells (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_smell ) in the gimp websites' current
codebase, that can be made less severe by using react, and won't be easily
fixable using Pelikan?

Or is this just hypothetical?

If you wish to help GIMP, there are other ways:

https://www.gimp.org/develop/

> On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 17:25, Shlomi Fish <shlomif shlomifish org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rohan,
> >
> > thanks for your enthusiasm!
> >
> > On Fri, 1 May 2020 07:45:47 +0530
> > Rohan Keskar18 via gimp-developer-list <gimp-developer-list gnome org>
> > wrote:
> >  
> > > Hey, Are you guys willing to switch your gimp.org website to react and
> > > node.js stack, I'm willing to do all the coding for free, I will redesign
> > > the website and will code the whole website, I just need too know that  
> > you  
> > > guys will at least consider this before committing to it. I'm an computer
> > > engineer student in my last semester and I want to contribute to an open
> > > source project that's why I'm doing this, Please let me know if you will
> > > atleast consider this, Waiting for your reply :)  
> >
> > I'm not a GIMP official, so my opinion is not autoritative. In my opinion,
> > https://www.gimp.org/ looks and functions well, despite being somewhat
> > reminiscent of https://everybootstrap.site/ and while having some minor
> > validation errors (see
> > https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gimp.org%2F ). I also
> > think
> > it is a mostly static site, which can be an advantage (see
> >
> > https://github.com/shlomif/shlomif-tech-diary/blob/master/static-site-generators--despair.md
> > ).
> >
> > Why should we consider converting the site to React.js? Which advantages
> > will
> > this transition give us? Will it still be usable with JavaScript
> > blocking/blacklisting such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoScript 's?
> >
> > For the record you can find the website's sources here:
> > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/gimp-web/
> >
> > Please reply to all.
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