Re: [Gimp-developer] New asset / extension manager

[Jehan Pagès <jehan marmottard gmail com>]

Hi!

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:16 PM Michal Vašut <michal vasut gmail com> wrote:

> Hey dude, calm down. Where have I written about "throwing your family,
> friends and life under the bus" or "black magic instant coding" ? Why are
> you angry (offended)?

I was clearly annoyed, if not indeed a bit offended by the answer (what and
how you said it was not very pleasant, if you read it with a neutral mind,
you should see it), though I was still calm and thought I stayed diplomatic
in my answer. Sorry if this part didn't get through, always hard by writing.

So yeah, no problem, don't worry. I am not angry or anything here. :-)


> Of course I don't know what you're doing. (only what you expose on Gitlab
> or blog)
>
> By priority I meant that Gimp team is pushing new features (that don't
> look like prerequisites for that manager) and that one that I'm looking for
> the most looks freezed (at least from outside). So I assume it's only your
> priority (not priority of the whole team).

Yeah we have some team roadmap of things we generically think should go in
this or that version. And there are global dev efforts in these direction
(like GTK+3, non-destructive editing and such). But mostly development is
driven by individual priorities, objectives or even sometimes just "where
they have most fun", on a finer level.

In that case I understand that creating something new (besides bugfixing,
> infrastructure maintenance,...) takes some time. I'm developer myself,
> trust me, I know well how it works.
>
> ✌

🕊☮ ;-)

Jehan

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> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 11:01 Jehan Pagès <jehan marmottard gmail com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 7:10 AM Michal Vašut <michal vasut gmail com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, so it's not priority...
> >
> > I re-read my email. Nowhere do I say such thing. I consider this project
> > to be one of my main priorities (I'd say it's easy in the top 10 of the
> > GIMP-related things I want to see happening as soon as possible). Hence I
> > talk about it in posts, I started implementing it and so on. We have been
> > discussing this stuff for years and years. Priority does not mean "black
> > magic instant coding".
> > Not giving deadlines does not mean not priority either.
> >
> > Unless by priority you mean throwing my family, friends and life under
> > the bus to get it done yesterday, because yeah I don't have any of these
> > and won't ever have.
> >
> > It's a pity, I think it would be much more useful and beneficial for Gimp
> > > that other things you guys do. But, it's your choice how you spend your
> > > free time...
> >
> > How do you know what else I do? I don't think you can decide that this
> > project is more important than any other things I've been doing, sorry. :-)
> >
> > Anyway, thanks for answer a have a successful 2020.
> > >
> >
> > Same for you, have a happy 2020!
> >
> > Jehan
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 11:25 Jehan Pagès <jehan marmottard gmail com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 11:37 PM Michal Vašut <michal vasut gmail com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Jehan, I know you've made some work on new extension manager -
> > > > > you've presented some GUI prototypes in the past and I also read about some
> > > > > huge backend refactoring, fixes and added support for JS and Lua for
> > > > > extension scripting. How far is it? Or better, how close to be released?
> > > > > It's without doubt huge task, and I understand how difficult is to work
> > > > > with such old codebase and don't mess up something else, so I don't want to
> > > > > put any pressure on you. Only thing I want to know is some rough estimate
> > > > > when it will be done.1st half of 2020? Second half? Next year?
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry, we don't do dates. We don't do rough estimates either.
> > > >
> > > > Things will be done when it's ready, that's it. I haven't taken the
> > > > time to work on this particular feature the last few months as I was doing
> > > > other stuff. I will continue implementing the feature. I can't tell when
> > > > this will happen and when this will be finished. I don't know either.
> > > >
> > > > Jehan
> > > >
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