Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-web] Alexandre Prokoudine attacks on GIMP critics around the Web

If you aren't a heavy critic of Gimp there is something wrong with you. I
appreciate that the app is free open source and developers are working for
free but it seems they are cut off from most users. This is apparent by
simply using the app. Virtually every feature has some kind of usability
bad design and Gimp is not as stable and reliable as it used to be. Most
people are not going to bother going on mailing lists. There doesn't seem
to be any decent forum that everyone uses like there is for Blender as in
Blenderartists and there is no Gimp manual for the latest version. Gimp
appears to be a jack of all trades and master of none so there is no
passionate community. A sign of the problems is that on Linux we have Krita
and Mypaint. If Gimp's tools had been better for painting and manipulating
things on the canvas we would not have needed those apps. Most people edit
photos in a RAW editors now so these more comprehensive 2D image editors
should not be centred around just editing photos.

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 07:20, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-developer-list <
gimp-developer-list gnome org> wrote:

пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г., 23:19 Simone Karin Lehmann simone lisanet de:


"We don't do "release dates" :) We release when it's ready.“

Niccolo still answers, IMO, very politely

and explains why, in his opinion, he thinks planned release dates are
better than solely saying "we don't do release dates“ and explains how a
smiley at the end of this sentence sounds to him and finally admitting
he might be wrong, though.

The problem here is that you are reading a reply that he later edited to
look nicer, after I replied to him.

The original comment suggested that by refusing to set dates to releases we
tell users to f*** off (I'm redacting this here, he didn't). And there was
no admission that he could be wrong.

Look, Simone, there are not many active contributors to GIMP, but those who
are, me including, spend upwards of 20 hours a week on this project (maybe
even more for some). It's like having another job (or another family).

And since my job is pretty much about communication between users and
developers, I find his repeated suggestion that we don't care about users
incredibly offensive, which I told him about several times, and he never
had the dignity to apologize (which would resolve the conflict completely).
On the contrary, instead of apologizing, he did his best to discredit my
involvement, not to mention all the expletives.

It's your choice to protect an abusive person though.

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