Re: [Gimp-developer] Export instead save directly

[Simone Karin Lehmann <simone lisanet de>]

> Am 01.03.2016 um 15:05 schrieb C R <cajhne gmail com>:
>
> If Save intelligently determines the file format that is most likely to be
> used to save, Export should not be necessary. Just "Save" and "Save As"
> would suffice.
That's nearly exactly what I did with my patched version on http://gimp.lisanet.de
I even made this a configurable option in the Preferences dialog. 
So, if one is interested, have a look at my patches. 

> We could use the "multi layer" & "layer outside layer boundaries"

I'm currently testing only for 'multiple layers' but it's quite easy to add other tests. 

> convention to suggest that the user save to xcf, as normal to preserve what
> they are seeing in the editor. The workflow would just involve flattening
> the image (which also gets rid of alpha) first before saving to make the
> Save default to the imported file format as a save suggestion. This has the
> advantage of being intuitive and changeable merely by typing the required
> file extension. For my various workflows, 99 times out of 100, it would not
> be necessary to change anything.

That was the reason why I did it. And I got a lot of positive feedback from users of my package. 

> I'd be lying if I said the current export convention didn't trip me up
> occasionally. It's been 6 years since I switched completely from Photoshop,
> so in my case, it's not really blamable on convention anylonger. :)
>
> My 2p.
>
> -C
>
>
>
> > On 1 Mar 2016 8:43 am, "Tobias Ellinghaus" <houz gmx de> wrote:
> >
> > Am Montag, 29. Februar 2016, 23:57:10 schrieb C R:
> > > > That would be terrible. Users not understanding the concept would
> > suddenly
> > > > be
> > > > facing images where they can just save to JPEG while others can't, but
> > PNG
> > > > is
> > > > still enabled (because they somehow added an alpha channel), and even
> > > > other
> > > > images support XCF only (maybe because the layer is bigger than the
> > > > image).
> >
> > (I used "just" in the sense of "without any further actions" and not
> > "only".)
> >
> > > No, that's not what I'm suggesting. If you import a jpeg for example, do
> > > your editing, and end up with an alpha channel somehow, the save could
> > > still default to the .jpg (the jpeg save dialogue could display a warning
> > > that transparency will be lost). That does not prevent the user from
> > > requesting a .png (by specifying that extension). It also does not
> > prevent
> > > the user saving as an xcf either for that matter.
> > >
> > > When closing the file, if the file is not saved as an xcf, and there is
> > > extra data to be lost, well, the warning about it is there anyway.
> >
> > But that would mean to just go back to the status quo ante, i.e., revert
> > the
> > save/export dichotomy and bring back saving to arbitrary formats.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > My 2p.
> > > -C
> >
> > Tobias
> >
> > [...]
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