Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-developer-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 31



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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  something's starting, it is the text tool (Thorsten Wilms)
  2.  fonts (Ben Harrington-Ellsmore)
  3. Re:  something's starting, it is the text tool (peter sikking)
  4. Re:  something's starting, it is the text tool
     (gespertino gmail com)
  5. Re:  something's starting, it is the text tool
     (gespertino gmail com)
  6.  Naming of thumbnails in Gimp on Windows.... (Ragnar Brynj?lfsson)
  7. Re:  Naming of thumbnails in Gimp on Windows....
     (Mukund Sivaraman)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:49:37 +0100
From: Thorsten Wilms <t_w_ freenet de>
To: gimp-developer-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text
       tool
Message-ID: <4F213DD1 3000405 freenet de>
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On 01/26/2012 12:03 PM, peter sikking wrote:

> ?text never is the main purpose in GIMP work (like it is in scribus
> or libreOffice writer), it only plays a supporting role within
> a graphical work?

I could see myself using text in GIMP for
- text in mockups
- annotations
- as integral part of ... poster design

For mockups, I prefer Inkscape, these days. GIMP only wins for some
modifications of screenshots.

With annotations I mean simple text placed on images. Usually small and
without any effect or only effects like drop shadow or blurring the
background for better legibility. This is all about convenience: to not
have an additional export/import/export with another application involved.

For text as integral part of a poster (or similar setting), it's hard to
compete with the flexibility and rich functionality of vector graphics
applications like Inkscape. Reasons to use GIMP could be a need for
tricky blending and pixel-based effects like grungy edges.

That would be text that is primarily an element of a graphical
composition, then. In contrast to text where its exact shape and
placement are secondary. I would not speak of a supporting role, as the
text might well take center stage and/or be the backbone of the work.

Such text, that is all about explicit shapes and exact/direct placement,
is the opposite to the result of some raw string of text with a set of
formatting rules applied to it.


--
Thorsten Wilms

thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:53:19 +0000
From: Ben Harrington-Ellsmore <noughtypixy hotmail co uk>
To: <gimp-developer-list gnome org>
Subject: [Gimp-developer] fonts
Message-ID: <BLU116-W36C3109B84A05D53EB62BAF890 phx gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


been trying to work out for a while how to limit the fonts that load on startup
can anyone tell me where the file I need to edit is to restrict it to only loading
home/.gimp2.6/fonts rather than also loading all the system fonts as well?


http://www.freewebs.com/noughtypixy/
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:53:47 +0100
From: peter sikking <peter mmiworks net>
To: gimp-developer <gimp-developer-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text
       tool
Message-ID: <F73F70E9-8281-4FA5-A3EA-5BA969541D8F mmiworks net>
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wow,

Thorsten Wilms' reply is exactly the type of information
I am looking for.

> I could see myself using text in GIMP for
> - text in mockups
> - annotations
> - as integral part of ... poster design
>
> For mockups, I prefer Inkscape, these days. GIMP only wins for some modifications of screenshots.
>
> With annotations I mean simple text placed on images. Usually small and without any effect or only effects like drop shadow or blurring the background for better legibility. This is all about convenience: to not have an additional export/import/export with another application involved.
>
> For text as integral part of a poster (or similar setting), it's hard to compete with the flexibility and rich functionality of vector graphics applications like Inkscape. Reasons to use GIMP could be a need for tricky blending and pixel-based effects like grungy edges.
>
> That would be text that is primarily an element of a graphical composition, then. In contrast to text where its exact shape and placement are secondary. I would not speak of a supporting role, as the text might well take center stage and/or be the backbone of the work.
>
> Such text, that is all about explicit shapes and exact/direct placement, is the opposite to the result of some raw string of text with a set of formatting rules applied to it.


   --ps

       founder + principal interaction architect
           man + machine interface works

       http://blog.mmiworks.net: on interaction architecture





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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:56:49 -0300
From: "gespertino gmail com" <gespertino gmail com>
To: peter sikking <peter mmiworks net>
Cc: gimp-developer <gimp-developer-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text
       tool
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

As a graphic designer I always need text. I'm doing most of my text work in
inkscape not because text doesn't belong to image manipulation, but because
now it's impossible to get a good workflow, including:
- Fine grained control over type properties and text layout
- Non-destructive transforms (i.e. rotating a text element and keep it
editable).
- Envelope-like distorts produce very low quality results with text (i.e.
curving a text block with cage too to make it wrap on a cylinder)

Every piece that requires text interacting with image has to be done in the
same environment you create/edit those images, because you need exact fit.
An example: A fake neon sign on the top of a building (photo). Creating and
distorting text in a different applications requires you to:
1- export a flattened version of your comp
2- create and distort text in the external app
3- export the text object, making sure its pixel size is right
4- import the object in GIMP and place it on the right place (something
that lacks precision, because you don't have a reference of the right
location since the text was created outside.
5- apply effects, etc.
If you need to change that text, you have to repeat almost the whole
procedure again.

Basically, if you're working on a comp with several layers and you need
text on it (or between layers), then moving to a different app to add it is
a no-go.

Here I found some graphic examples of designs created with text in
Photoshop. I know it's not the idea to copy PS or even have it as a
reference, but this kind of works is something a graphic designer would do
in GIMP.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:57:08 -0300
From: "gespertino gmail com" <gespertino gmail com>
To: peter sikking <peter mmiworks net>
Cc: gimp-developer <gimp-developer-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text
       tool
Message-ID:
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...and the link:
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/03/04/50-stunning-photoshop-text-effect-tutorials/

:-)
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:49:18 +0100
From: Ragnar Brynj?lfsson <ragtag ragtag net>
To: gimp-developer-list gnome org
Subject: [Gimp-developer] Naming of thumbnails in Gimp on Windows....
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I'm new here, so Hi all. :)

I just finished a python script/plug-in called GIMP Book for managing
multiple pages in GIMP 2.6 (I make comics in my free time, so it comes
quite handy). It can be found at?http://registry.gimp.org/node/25975?I
developed it on Ubuntu, and it works fine on Ubuntu and Fedora, but
fails on Windows.

I've narrowed the Windows problem down to the code that finds the
thumbnails created by Gimp. It looks up the md5 hash of the path to
the image, and then looks for that image in ~/.thumbnails/large or
normal. The same code on Windows returns a hash that doesn't match the
name of the thumbnail generated. For instance:

import urllib
import hashlib
bla = urllib.quote("C:\g.xcf")
hashlib.md5("file://" + bla).hexdigest()

Returns eef9b62......something, but the thumbnail for C:\g.xcf is
called e345adf8ffb47e9a1be0fa35aa457295.png

I'm guessing it is something simple, but all the testing I've done
with escaping characters and different variations has come up short.
So how would I go about getting the correct md5 hash for a Windows
path in Python?

Cheers,

 Ragnar


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:30:31 +0530
From: Mukund Sivaraman <muks banu com>
To: Ragnar Brynj?lfsson <ragtag ragtag net>
Cc: gimp-developer-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Naming of thumbnails in Gimp on
       Windows....
Message-ID: <20120126160030 GA1046 misha banu com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi Ragnar

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 04:49:18PM +0100, Ragnar Brynj?lfsson wrote:
> I'm new here, so Hi all. :)
>
> I just finished a python script/plug-in called GIMP Book for managing
> multiple pages in GIMP 2.6 (I make comics in my free time, so it comes
> quite handy). It can be found at?http://registry.gimp.org/node/25975?I
> developed it on Ubuntu, and it works fine on Ubuntu and Fedora, but
> fails on Windows.
>
> I've narrowed the Windows problem down to the code that finds the
> thumbnails created by Gimp. It looks up the md5 hash of the path to
> the image, and then looks for that image in ~/.thumbnails/large or
> normal. The same code on Windows returns a hash that doesn't match the
> name of the thumbnail generated. For instance:
>
> import urllib
> import hashlib
> bla = urllib.quote("C:\g.xcf")
> hashlib.md5("file://" + bla).hexdigest()
>
> Returns eef9b62......something, but the thumbnail for C:\g.xcf is
> called e345adf8ffb47e9a1be0fa35aa457295.png

>>> hashlib.md5("file:///C:/g.xcf").hexdigest()
'e345adf8ffb47e9a1be0fa35aa457295'


Kind regards,

Mukund


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