Re: [gedit-list] The plugin mentality

[Chepi Gimenez <chepi gimenez gmail com>]

I've been thinking about this for a while, and labeled the set of issues under "usability". There's a lot to be done, but having these open-ended conversations is a great beginning, and maybe more of them are necessary.

I definitely agree with having the "Search and install plugins" menu option included in the core package, at the very least. 

Perhaps a next step would be to -sort of- standardize plugin bundles for the most frequent use cases, ie: Web Frontend Dev, WebDev, et al.

And CODE FOLDING would be SWEET. (I know thats SourceView's turf, but anyways)

I'm in a rush, gotta sprint out... Cheers, 

chepi

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Sebastian Posch <posch sebastian gmail com> wrote:

I was thinking about the same issue lately, when I had to explain a co-worker that gedit compares really well to editors like E or TextMate once you have it properly configured with plugins.

Perhaps a more elegant way (than having all plugins installed by default) would be an "Add-ons" menu like in Firefox.

Of course there would be required a github repository or something similar. Most gedit plugins I installed don't seem to live on the official gnome site but come from some random blogs.

Perhaps a gedit plugin could be developed which would be able to access the repo then download and extract the plugins requested by the user?

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By supporting plugins, gedit leaves basic features out of its editor.

It reminds me of shopping for a really cheap car where you have to special order
even the most basic things. "You want seat belts? We can have those installed.
Windsheld wipers? What are you, some kind of picky troublemaker?"

Now days most text editors have such basic features as block column editing,
sorting, and syntax editing for a handful of languages (C++, Java, Python)
built-in. With these editors, no matter what machine you log into, you know
these features will be there.  Not gedit. It reminds me of ancient text editors
like Notepad--useful only for very basic tasks. Certainly Linux deserves better
than this.

I think that because of plugins, people don't think of putting in these basic
features. "You want column editing? We can have that installed!"


I think that mentallity is a big mistake. I use gedit on different machines, not
all necessarily configured by me. It would be wonderful if I could count on a
few more modern but still basic capabilities built into the default text editor.

    -tom

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