Re: No more problem with 0.18.0

[Jeff Waugh <jdub perkypants org>]

<quote who="Sean Proctor">

> > Oh, gee, welcome to our UNSTABLE DEVELOPMENT SERIES, of which pango
> > 1.1.x relies on new X features. Sorry if this has caused you some
> > INCONVENIENCE, the rest of us here are TESTING it.
> 
> Oh come on, we can have opinions of testing software.  Good thing it's
> testing though or we'd all be mad at you for releasing it.  Let's just
> make it not suck before it gets out of testing.

If you got mad at me for releasing it, I'd tell you to piss off and use
binary packages. :-) GARNOME is 100% for testers. Especially now that we're
back in a development series.

> Step 1 to that seems to be making Xft/Xrender not suck.

By the time GNOME 2.2 comes out, they will be included in XFree86, and we
can say "requires XFree86 blah.blah". Simple.

I'm attempting to make testing reasonable for people who don't run the very
latest XFree86. If you can't handle it, or you think it sucks, don't bother
testing. Again, simple.

> The versions that ship with fontconfig seem to be pretty heavily tied to
> the X11 install tree.  Perhaps they need to be made a little more robust
> before we can expect them to be usable.  Maybe I'm totally off-base on
> that though.  To me they just seem like they're pulled from the xfree
> source and not really repackaged.

That's entirely right. The packaging has contributed to GARNOME's issues,
but so have my assumptions and mistakes.

If you can't handle breakage on your desktop, keep using GNOME 2.0.2. Don't
run pre-alpha software designed for testing and expect everything to be
smooth sailing.

If you think I'm being unnecessarily harsh, I'm sorry. It seems that we just
have to keep on saying it to get the message through.

- Jeff

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