Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

Dear Mr. Stallman,

First of all, it is a pleasure to be with you on the same mailing list. You have my full respect!

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Richard Stallman <rms gnu org> wrote:
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Arch is a variant of the GNU/Linux system, so please let's not call it
"Arch Linux".  Calling the whole system "Linux" is, in effect, giving
Torvalds credit for our work, so we get no credit for it.

See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html and
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html, plus the history in

Since Arch is a version of GNU/Linux, the right term is Arch GNU/Linux.

If we mention it, what can we say about it?  It is not a free system,
so if we mention it, we should not present it as exemplary.

See http://gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html for more explanation
about this issue.

I have done a quick search on the 'active' distributions on DistroWatch.com and only very few systems are following your logic:


However, I have not searched/seen this yet:

But I guess the 'active' ones are more important than the other.

Only few are following the GNU/Linux naming logic.

I see your point here, perhaps unlike some other who might not.

There is no one who could deny what you have done nor your project. You do have our respect, no doubt about that. But, in order to end this discussion once and for all (I hope we could), what do you suggest?

I'm not sure if approaching all the communities and request a name change is good idea but it could still be one of the options.

I for one have my own project:

If truth to be told, I wasn't paying lots of attention to GNU/Linux but thanks to your emails, I will from now and on. Yes, I'm aware since I have started using Linux that it is actually GNU/Linux but I also know only few who are mentioning that.

Sadly, people for some odd reason tend to remove/ignore the important words on their emails/posts/articles, etc to save time but they're wrong IMHO. Words like "Hi" at the beginning of any email for example or "GNU" before "Linux" so it is "GNU/Linux" ... if they would know that will cost them 1 extra second to write that, I guess they might think wisely but we can't force people to do that. It should come from them directly.

Now, after reading your emails, I will start my best to never forget to mention 'GNU' whenever there is 'Linux'.

I'll be the change that I would like to see around. This is the best way.

Thank you so much for enlightening me/us. I highly appreciate that.

Dr Richard Stallman
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