Re: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)

["Lucas Rocha" <lucasr gnome org>]

Hi all,

Could you please move this discussion to d-d-l and/or
gnome-infrastructure? This mailing list is definitely not the place to
discuss SCM in GNOME.

Thanks,

--lucasr

2007/9/10, Olav Vitters <olav bkor dhs org>:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:29:35AM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > 2007/9/8, Olav Vitters <olav bkor dhs org>:
> > > On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 04:47:31PM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > > > And this all is naturally from the developer/maintainer POV, as
> > > > translators and documentors do not benefit from this as much. But as
> > > > the general opinion seems to be, they shouldn't be forced to use SCM:s
> > > > directly anyway.
> > >
> > > That is a theoretical discussion. Ideally GNOME has a D-SCM now and all
> > > translators use a websystem that automatically translators. It doesn't exist.
> >
> > Of course it is theoretical since there's no hope (nor sense) in
> > switching over to anything before there are tools. As is pointed out,
> > it would make things worse for non-developres.
>
> D-SCM systems exist. Such a translator tool does not. Especially as
> someone has to write that tool, I do not like discussions that involve a
> tool 'someone will write' (well, unless one of the damned-lies people
> shows a clear proposal; including authentication bits).
>
> > But that doesn't mean the discussion needs to be punted indefinetly,
> > and statements like "I don't want to learn a new SCM" are really not
> > contributing to a discussion of the benefits a new tool would give to
> > developers. At least I thought we were discussing exactly that.
>
> I disagree. It translates to easy of use. Why should I have to care how
> a SCM works? A tool should either warn me strongly before doing
> something wrong, or prevent it outright. It should have a --help that is
> understandable. The man pages should have the most common usages, etc.
>
> I'm all for some D-SCM tool that provides benefits to people who
> understand (D-)SCM in&out, but I need to use it as well. Perhaps git now
> is good enough, no idea. But just discussing benefits of some tool
> without discussing ease of use is ignoring part of the users.
>
> > > Although there is now some progress towards D-SCM, I don't see
> > > such a websystem happening. Also am not sure if a websystem is the most
> > > appropriate way.
> >
> > I'd much rather see something like SCM support for gtranslate which
> > would give a comfortable tool to translate and send changes to the
> > server.
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Olav
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