Re: desktop mem usage [was Re: Candidacy - Alan Cox]
- From: Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>
- To: Linas Vepstas <linas linas org>
- Cc: Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com>, foundation-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: desktop mem usage [was Re: Candidacy - Alan Cox]
- Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 17:43:52 +0000
Linas Vepstas wrote:
On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:41:37AM -0500, Havoc Pennington was heard to remark:
I don't think it's actually that hard, and to be really snappy on good
hardware you have to be usable on bad hardware.
Hmm. Maybe I spoke too soon. Maybe I need to reflect this back to
Alan Cox. 3-4 years ago, I was running gnome-1.0 on a p-166 w/64meg
ram (doing development & other things) and performance was acceptable
(in fact, it was 2x faster than win95 on the same machine, which...
well, I'm not a poet, but it calls for some superlative that embodies
a whole rainbow of emotions and feelings.)
Is gnome-1.4 worse, or about the same? I mean the core of the panel
loaded with some 'typical' applets & sawmill? Can I then load up
one copy of evolution and a copy of galleon and a copy of abiword
without mollases'ing the system? I dunno, I haven't tried. Its hard to
be objective after living with a fast system, but, is it still zippier
than win95? If the answer is 'yes', then my apologies for my
alarmist chime-in on alan's remark.
I used for about a year Gnome 1.2 on a G3 233 with 32 megs, and it was
quite sluggish (but somewhat usable). Added quite a fair bit of RAM
(don't remember if it was 64 or 128 megs), and it became much much
better. I reckon that these days Gnome 1.4 is usable on a 300 -> 500 MHz
class computer with over 64 megs of RAM.
De-bloating is a good idea for a bunch of applications, but you can't
expect a full-fledge desktop to run nicely on a very slow machine.
XFCE for example is a nice desktop to run on this kind of machine, and
using small applications instead of the bigger ones is a pretty good
solution (for example, encompass instead of galeon, gnomecal and balsa
instead of evolution...)
Unix systems like RAM... that's a fact.
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