Re: Category Name Refused

["Todd Slater" <dontodd gmail com>]

On 7/11/07, Daniel Falk <f-spot mbx zapto org> wrote:
>  Todd Slater wrote:
<snip>
>  As a scuttle and del.icio.us user for the last few years, it makes
> sense to me. I'd try to find pictures of streets in Rome by first
> selecting the Rome tag and adding the "The Streets" tag (or the other
> way around). I don't care for the folder hierarchy model, though I
> realize some prefer it over tags.
<snip>

>  Personally, I disagree because I think a tag ought to correspond to a
> thing, not just a word.  Sure, you can make a single tag "The Streets" and a
> single tag "Rome" and put them together and essentially get the words "The
> Streets Of Rome", but that is not always going to be as powerful as it could
> be.

But my goal is not to get the words "The Streets of Rome," I'm looking
for pictures of [Rome AND streets].

>  A simple example.  Let's say you went to venice and decided to tag it The
> Streets and Venice.  Then you wanted to change the tag to be "The Canals".
> But you can't, because the tag doesn't correspond to a complete idea, but
> only a set of words.

Why not? Don't we use words to represent ideas? I could easily change
the tag from "streets" to "canals". Maybe I just want to find all the
canal pictures I have, I don't want to have to search for
canals+venice, canals+eerie, canals+someotherplacethathascanals. Or
even drill down some hierarchy like Places > Planets > Earth > Land >
Continents > Europe > Countries > Italy > Cities > Venice > Canals.

>  It's not that I don't see the value of a list or cloud, but can't we allow
> for both concepts in the same interface?

I'm not a developer, just a user.


>  In my humble opinion, it's a deficiency to not allow tag names to have the
> same name.  Unnecessary, and confusing to certain people.  Should this
> discussion go to the bug report?  Does anybody have the link for that?

It sounds like you want nested folders and I want tags. I think Picasa
allows for both options in its interface, though the last time I
looked the tags interface was rather clunky. I believe they called
them keywords, but you can also use I think what they call albums.

Can you just clarify why you need to use duplicate tags? I still don't
understand. I mean as an end-user, I'm just interested in your process
since obviously I'm not doing any coding.

Thanks,

Todd