On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 16:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:01 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:I am aware that you are one of the former group, and you don't want to fix your filters so that they match your preferred use case for some reason. IIRC I never did work out why you think this peculiarity of yours is more important, overall, than deliberately cutting others out of mail threads so that they never see messages at all.I seem to have hit a nerve. My filters work fine and I have no problem with duplicates. I also have no desire to "deliberately cut others out of mail threads" but if someone doesn't notice a reply to a question they themselves have posted because it went to the list they posted it on and not to their personal inbox, frankly I'm not going to worry about it.
I understand that you don't have much sympathy for me when I posted to the list and didn't see the reply, and that's fair enough — but in fact I *did* remember that this problem happens on this list a lot, and keep checking the list manually for a few days. But the response actually came 11 days later, but which time I'd stopped checking. And that's only one of the use cases I listed. There are other users who *never* receive the message for absolutely no fault of their own.
I simply wondered why you were complaining about Reply-to- List, which is widely used both here and elsewhere. It appears from your essay on the subject that you would prefer Reply-to-List be removed from Evolution (or its behaviour changed). I'm fine with it as it is and will continue to use it when appropriate.
Out of interest, is it that you don't *care* that you are cutting people out of the conversation — permanently, as well as merely temporarily delaying them seeing the messages as in my case — or is it that you still don't think that's what you're doing? (Thanks for *not* doing it this time, btw) If the latter, I'd be happy to update the document. I've tried very hard to include the simple use cases and factual analysis "above the cut", then put my opinion/conclusion at the bottom.
Given the number of MUAs that don't support it, including the various web clients and TBird (IIRC) it will probably fade away in time, as will plaintext mail and inline quoting. I think this is a pity but frankly can't be bothered arguing about it.
I think Thunderbird does unfortunately support it too; in fact I have a vague idea that we "learned" it from Thunderbird. At least we don't do it by default though :)
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