Re: [Evolution] Google's blockage of Evolution with Gmail, and Web Presence of Evolution

[Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam whitemice org>]

On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 12:34 -0500, Nick Pontillo wrote:
> Hey all, there are two things I'd like to propose/bring to attention.
> First of all, Google is blocking Evolution from working with Gmail
> due to this: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en

Nope,  setup the account in GOA.  Strong authentication works.  But you
need to be on a version of GOA/Evolution where that works - but I
believe it has been awhile.

> So my question is, would it be feasible for Evolution to start using
> 0auth2, so that it is no longer blocked by Google? I believe 
> Thunderbird already does this by the way, 

I believe Evolution - or more appropriately GNOME - already does this.

> And this brings me to the other thing I want to talk about, which is
> that in order to give feedback about this I had to sign up for this
> mailing list and send out an email. 

Yes.

> I think there is a good opportunity
> for Evolution to improve its user-friendliness by having a forum on 
> the web of some sort.

No!  All forums do is provide somewhere for questions to go to die. 
 Mail lists have been around pretty much forever and are conveniently
push-oriented.   AND is is a FEATURE NOT A BUG that is adds a wee tiny
bit of effort on behalf of the one seeking ***FREE*** assistance.  This
is Open Source.

> *Forums are better than IRC and mailing lists because people don't 
> have to sign up to look at them*,

You do not need to sign up to search the list archives either. 
 Messages from the Evolution list(s) are fully indexes and show up in
search engine results.

> This does not even require any money, hardware, or investment from
> Gnome. All it would take is for someone to make a subreddit called
> "/r/evolutionmail" and then link to that subreddit in the Evolution
> manual, gnome wiki page, and setup wizard. Maybe advertise it a bit 
> on Linux blogs/forums on the same day it's created.

And it would be completely ignored by all those experienced with the
application and in a position to offer the desired information.  Check
out 99.44% of all reddit feeds and you will find no-responses or
completely wrong horrible advice - and then people will blame
Evolution.  Talk about alienation - nothing is worse that the kind of
'tech support' I see people receive via the openSUSE Facebook account.


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