Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 110, Issue 6

["William W. Austin" <airedad att net>]

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>    1. Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Ralf Mardorf)
>    2. Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>    3. Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>    4. Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Pete Biggs)
>    5. Re:  [Bulk] Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP (Ralf Mardorf)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:32:50 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf mardorf rocketmail com>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
> Message-ID: <1409743970 2283 3 camel rocketmail com>
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> On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 09:37 -0400, Robert Seward wrote:
> > I prefer POP with Evolution because it is more stable for me than
> > IMAP.
> > About half my accounts are POP and half are IMAP.
>
> +1 +1
>
> None of my accounts is IMAP anymore :p.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:43:31 +0100
> From: Patrick O'Callaghan <poc usb ve>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
> Message-ID: <1409744611 2230 49 camel Bree home>
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> On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 04:34 -0600, Bart wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:26 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > I suspect that 90% of the problems reported are with IMAP because
> > > 90%
> > > of people use IMAP.
> >
> > I'm not so sure.  Most of the people I know use web mail.  They do
> > everything through their browser.  Is that IMAP?  I want no part of
> > that!
>
> I think Pete was talking about the problems reported on this list.
> People using webmail systems are not talking about them here because
> it
> wouldn't be appropriate (for the record, I also use Gmail for a lot 
> of
> casual mailing, but it's not good at managing mailing lists).
>
> [...]
>
> > Why, why, why is everyone so intent on making me, and others like
> me,
> > change a system we are perfectly happy with, to one you think is
> > "Better"?
>
> We aren't. No-one is proposing to remove POP support from Evo. The
> question is how much effort the devels should put into it at the
> expense
> of other things such as fixing IMAP problems.
>
> poc
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:45:18 +0100
> From: Patrick O'Callaghan <poc usb ve>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
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> On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 13:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > Why do people still use POP [...]?
> >
> > Because of the issues I experienced when using IMAP, such as
> receiving
> > the messages two times. I never run into such evil issues when 
> using
> > POP. Once there are multiple copies of hundreds of emails in your
> > private email archive, you can't get rid of those.
>
> And I've never experienced them with IMAP, so it would appear that
> your
> problem is either with the server side or with something in your Evo
> configuration.
>
> poc
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 12:45:30 +0100
> From: Pete Biggs <pete biggs org uk>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
> Message-ID: <1409744730 17471 52 camel snoopy chem ox ac uk>
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> On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 13:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > Why do people still use POP [...]?
> >
> > Because of the issues I experienced when using IMAP, such as
> receiving
> > the messages two times. I never run into such evil issues when 
> using
> > POP. Once there are multiple copies of hundreds of emails in your
> > private email archive, you can't get rid of those.
>
> POP was always much more prone to duplicating emails because of the
> way
> the message IDs are used in POP.  It's why all the dedup
> plugins/programs/protocols were created.
>
> I've never heard of a problem of IMAP duplicating emails and, knowing
> how the protocol works, I can't see how it can!  The view you see in
> your mailbox is what is on the server, so something else must be
> duplicating the mails. You may have seen a problem when using an IMAP
> server, but it's not an IMAP protocol issue per se.
>
> P.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:46:46 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf mardorf rocketmail com>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re:  Errors receiving mail via POP
> Message-ID: <1409744806 2283 8 camel rocketmail com>
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> On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 15:32 -0600, Bart wrote:
> > > So download it to your own computer using fetchmail or offline
> IMAP
> > mode
> > > (or just dragging it between folders). IMAP doesn't force you to
> > leave
> > > it on a server. There is no feature of POP which IMAP does not
> also
> > > have.
> >
> > Why perform an additional step?  POP does that for me.
>
> While I'm pro POP and against IMAP I anyway have to disagree, you 
> need
> to set up POP too, if you want that the mails are deleted on the
> server.
>
>
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william w. austin                                     airedad att net
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