Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 20



Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren
Ich fordere Sie jetzt noch einmal  auf meine E-Mail Adresse aus Ihrem Verteiler zu löschen.
Da ich keine Nachrichten mehr von Ihnen erhalten möchte
mfg Endres
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> Subject: evolution-list Digest, Vol 97, Issue 20
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> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:16:29 +0000
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> 1. Re: expunge individual messages from inbox (Adam Tauno Williams)
> 2. Re: Keyring Password issues again!! (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> 3. Re: expunge individual messages from inbox (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> 4. Re: expunge individual messages from inbox (joe akalabs net)
> 5. Exchange Server 2008 (Tom Davies)
> 6. Re: expunge individual messages from inbox (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> 7. Re: expunge individual messages from inbox (joe akalabs net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:03:25 -0400
> From: Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam whitemice org>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] expunge individual messages from inbox
> Message-ID: <1376431405 2122 5 camel linux-22wg site>
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> On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 17:18 -0400, joe akalabs net wrote:
> > I'm using evolution for the first time and I'm confused about the work
> > flow. Looking at my inbox I want to hit something like ctrl-del to
> > immediately permanently delete (expunge?)
>
> Expunge is Ctrl-E.
>
> Workflow is simple:
> (1) Delete messages
> (2) Expunge messages
>
> It is optional to show [or not] deleted messages.
>
> > the selected message. For
> > other messages I want to hit just delete and have the message moved to
> > trash, which seems to work fine.
>
> Trash is really nothing but a move [and I never use Trash in any client,
> not in years - IMAP already provides a server-supported two-phase
> deletion workflow]. Trash is just fighting the workflow. Honestly I'm
> not even sure how Trash works in Evolution.
>
> But if you want to move the message to another folder - why not just
> move the message to another folder.
>
> I believe some servers support move-to-folder as an overload of the
> expunge or delete operations, but that doesn't concern Evolution one way
> or the other.
>
>
>
>
> > I cannot figure out the first part. Is
> > it possible to expunge individual messages without deleting them first?
>
> No, that doesn't make sense.
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:23:01 +0100
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <poc usb ve>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Keyring Password issues again!!
> Message-ID: <1376432581 25782 1 camel dusty>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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> On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 11:23 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > Is the Evo 3.8.2 too old or is it good enough to connect to a Windows Exchange Server 2008?
>
> How is this related to the Subject line of the thread? When you want to
> introduce a new topic, compose a fresh message. Don't just reply to an
> existing one, i.e. don't hijack threads.
>
> poc
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:36:46 +0100
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <poc usb ve>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] expunge individual messages from inbox
> Message-ID: <1376433406 25782 13 camel dusty>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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> On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 18:03 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > Trash is really nothing but a move [and I never use Trash in any
> > client,
> > not in years - IMAP already provides a server-supported two-phase
> > deletion workflow]. Trash is just fighting the workflow. Honestly
> > I'm
> > not even sure how Trash works in Evolution.
>
> Evo is primarily an IMAP client so it tends to follow the IMAP model. In
> IMAP, a message is marked for deletion and at some later date the
> *folder* (not the message) is expunged. There *is no Trash folder*!
> Trash in Evo is a virtual folder, which simply shows a view of the
> messages marked as deleted in all the folders in the account.
>
> The advantage if this is that no copying of messages is necessary and
> undeletion is trivial - you just toggle the \Deleted flag. On most
> non-IMAP systems deletion involves copying the message to a real Trash
> folder, followed by expunging it from the original folder, so deletion
> can fail because the user has run out of quota, which is when he most
> wants to delete. And undeleting means doing it all again but in reverse.
>
> In the traditional IMAP spec, you can only expunge a complete folder,
> not an individual message. IIRC later versions of IMAP allow expunging
> of single messages, but don't quote me.
>
> poc
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:45:56 -0400
> From: joe akalabs net
> To: <evolution-list gnome org>
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] expunge individual messages from inbox
> Message-ID: <605d069aab0496383eee046c8f0f9a57 akalabs net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 2013-08-13 18:03, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 17:18 -0400, joe akalabs net wrote:
> >
> >> Is it possible to expunge individual messages without deleting them
> >> first?
> >
> > No, that doesn't make sense.
> >
>
> OK, I didn't understand the IMAP trash construct. I guess my question
> is how does one make a one-stroke keyboard shortcut to move a message to
> another folder?
>
> If I make a folder called "attic" how do I hit a key combination to
> move selected stuff from the inbox to "attic"? Some drag-and-drop or
> three click operation isn't viable.
>
> With mutt I always had a local non-imap folder called "trash". Hitting
> 'd' would move a message to trash. 'Shift-D' permanently deleted the
> message instead. I'm trying to roughly replicate this work flow.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:57:01 +0100 (BST)
> From: Tom Davies <tomdavies04 yahoo co uk>
> To: "evolution-list gnome org" <evolution-list gnome org>
> Subject: [Evolution] Exchange Server 2008
> Message-ID:
> <1376434621 38974 YahooMailNeo web28905 mail ir2 yahoo com>
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>
> Hi :)
> What should i install in order to get Exchange communicating with Evo?? Do i install the Ews things first or Mapi or the main Evo package?? Does the wrong order damage anything, such as my ability to try again and get the order right 2nd time.?
>
>
> I know it's MS's fault for creating such a non-standard POS but i have to live with it for now, at least until i can show them a better calendar.? I was really glad to see someone give a PPA that might even make it possible for me to install Evo at last and give it a go.?
>
>
> https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
> Many apols for getting over excited about that but if you were in my shoes you might understand.?
> Apols and regards from
> Tom :)?
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 00:07:41 +0100
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <poc usb ve>
> To: evolution-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] expunge individual messages from inbox
> Message-ID: <1376435261 25782 22 camel dusty>
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> On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 18:45 -0400, joe akalabs net wrote:
> > On 2013-08-13 18:03, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 17:18 -0400, joe akalabs net wrote:
> > >
> > >> Is it possible to expunge individual messages without deleting them
> > >> first?
> > >
> > > No, that doesn't make sense.
> > >
> >
> > OK, I didn't understand the IMAP trash construct. I guess my question
> > is how does one make a one-stroke keyboard shortcut to move a message to
> > another folder?
> >
> > If I make a folder called "attic" how do I hit a key combination to
> > move selected stuff from the inbox to "attic"? Some drag-and-drop or
> > three click operation isn't viable.
> >
> > With mutt I always had a local non-imap folder called "trash". Hitting
> > 'd' would move a message to trash. 'Shift-D' permanently deleted the
> > message instead. I'm trying to roughly replicate this work flow.
>
> Ctrl-D marks the message for deletion. It won't disappear till you
> expunge the folder. I'm not sure how that differs from what you're used
> to in Mutt, except that there's no copying and expunging is per-folder
> and not per-message.
>
> If that's not good enough, Ctrl-Shift-V will move the message to another
> folder. You still have to select which one but that can be done from the
> keyboard (use the arrow keys or start typing the folder's name).
>
> Possibly you could use labels, i.e. define a new label as "attic",
> together with a virtual folder that collects all "attic"-labelled
> messages, but AFAIK you still need to select the label manually.
>
> You can mark a message as Important with a single click immediately to
> the left of the sender in the messages pane.
>
> poc
>
> Y
>
> poc
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:15:48 -0400
> From: joe akalabs net
> To: <evolution-list gnome org>
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] expunge individual messages from inbox
> Message-ID: <008cfb49d461529405f55ac66fc1eea4 akalabs net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 2013-08-13 19:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> > If that's not good enough, Ctrl-Shift-V will move the message to
> > another
> > folder. You still have to select which one but that can be done from
> > the
> > keyboard (use the arrow keys or start typing the folder's name).
> >
>
> Ugh. This is what I want but I'm very sad a proper shortcut can't be
> configured. Thanks.
>
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