Re: [Evolution] A Digression on Digests





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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  NOT SOLVED: Re: Solved: RE:  Big problems with evo
      (Reid Thompson)
   2. Re:  NOT SOLVED: Re: Solved: RE:  Big problems with evo
      (Pete Biggs)
   3. Re:  NOT SOLVED: Re: Solved: RE:  Big problems with evo
      (Svante Signell)
   4. Re:  NOT SOLVED: Re: Solved: RE:  Big problems with evo
      (Pete Biggs)
   5. Re:  evolution crashing (Bart)
   6. Re:  A digression on digests (Nick Jenkins)
   7. Re:  Mail filter question (Svante Signell)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:10:09 -0400
From: Reid Thompson <Reid Thompson ateb com>
To: awilliam whitemice org
Cc: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] NOT SOLVED: Re: Solved: RE:  Big problems
      with evo
Message-ID: <1301577009 22462 18 camel raker ateb com>
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On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 07:48 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:


Have you filed it?

I have no clue how to debug a MAPI connection; but at least you could
wireshark the interaction from Evolution startup to crash [assuming you
can perform an unencrypted connection - an encrypted connection is
pretty useless].


he indicates that this is IMAP, not MAPI..
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:25:50 +0100
From: Pete Biggs <pete biggs org uk>
To: "evolution-list gnome org" <evolution-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] NOT SOLVED: Re: Solved: RE:  Big problems
      with evo
Message-ID: <1301577950 7594 45 camel snoopy chem ox ac uk>
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Still applies. On another computer I created an IMAP account (same as
before). Same problem as before: No mails are found in the newly
created folder. evo is just downloading the folder content over and
over in an infinite loop!!!

This comes up when all folder data has been downloaded:
(evolution:15297): camel-imap-provider-WARNING **: No information for
message 1

Then download starts again.


Just out of interest, are you asked for a password for the IMAP account
each time you start up Evo?  (One of your previous messages had in it
the fact that Evo was having problems accessing the keyring)

If you want to get more debugging info, then have a look at:

 http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml

Basically you need to start Evo as 

 CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution >& evo.log

P.



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:41:12 +0200
From: Svante Signell <srs kth se>
To: Pete Biggs <pete biggs org uk>
Cc: "evolution-list gnome org" <evolution-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] NOT SOLVED: Re: Solved: RE:  Big problems
      with evo
Message-ID: <1301578872 32453 82 camel s1499 it kth se>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 14:25 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:

This comes up when all folder data has been downloaded:
(evolution:15297): camel-imap-provider-WARNING **: No information for
message 1

Then download starts again.


Just out of interest, are you asked for a password for the IMAP account
each time you start up Evo?  (One of your previous messages had in it
the fact that Evo was having problems accessing the keyring)

Yes I'm asked for a password, since SSL is used. Yes there was some
keyring problem is that related?

However, on the box where I fixed the problem I copied the whole 
~/.local/share/evolution/mail/imap/'my_account' from a computer where
IMAP works. And I'm still getting these keyring messages when running
evo.

If you want to get more debugging info, then have a look at:

 http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml

Doing that now, thanks.

Basically you need to start Evo as 
 CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution >& evo.log

Will do that when I have physical access to the computer at hand.





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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:12:59 +0100
From: Pete Biggs <pete biggs org uk>
To: "evolution-list gnome org" <evolution-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] NOT SOLVED: Re: Solved: RE:  Big problems
      with evo
Message-ID: <1301580779 7594 53 camel snoopy chem ox ac uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"



Just out of interest, are you asked for a password for the IMAP account
each time you start up Evo?  (One of your previous messages had in it
the fact that Evo was having problems accessing the keyring)

Yes I'm asked for a password, since SSL is used. Yes there was some
keyring problem is that related?

I don't know - just another datapoint I think.


However, on the box where I fixed the problem I copied the whole 
~/.local/share/evolution/mail/imap/'my_account' from a computer where
IMAP works. And I'm still getting these keyring messages when running
evo.

The keyring is nothing to do with Evo, it's Gnome function provided by
gnome-keyring-daemon.  On Fedora the gui for playing with it is provided
by seahorse.  There was a long thread a little while back on here
starting at:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2011-February/msg00059.html

Having re-read those messages though, something to check - what language
are you using in your environment - is it Swedish? If so, what's the
Swedish for "default"?

P.




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:48:24 -0600
From: Bart <montana_evolution_user hardinmt us>
To: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution crashing
Message-ID: <1301590104 24666 24 camel suse113 site>
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On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 07:54 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 15:31 -0600, Bart wrote:
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 08:40 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
... But it's really a wild guess, you may provide backtrace of
the crash with debug info packages installed for evolution-data-server,
evolution, gtkhtml3 (and any other packages related to evolution)

I disabled Tracker as you suggested.

    Hi,
did it help?

It seems it did!  I haven't had a *disappearance* of evolution since I
disabled Tracker.  Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.




I *could* install all the debug
packages but I'm unsure which ones to install.

I named them above. With "related to evolution" is usually meant any
package which has "evolution" in its name. Like if you are using
evolution-exchange or evolution-mapi, then these too.


Oh.  Alright.  I thought there might be others that were not named as
such.  I know a lot of Gnome is required for evolution and I run KDE as
the default desktop.  I'm always impressed by how well they work
together.



Is this the proper or
most useful place to try to resolve this, or is there another?

It depends. Usual place is
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution
to paste your crash backtrace there, which can be identified either as
something new or as something known, with possible workaround or fix
available.

I'm certainly willing to do what I can to help with evolution using my
limited knowledge.

Thanks for that.
    Bye,
    Milan





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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 20:52:59 +1100
From: Nick Jenkins <nickpj gmail com>
To: evolution-list <evolution-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] A digression on digests
Message-ID: <1301651579 5239 224 camel redux>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Currently Evo lets you reply to a message within a digest but quite a
few people don't seem to realize this

It does? I'm using Evolution 2.30.3, and was reading your message in
digest format, but I could not see a way to reply to just your message
in the digest. I looked in two places:
1) I selected some of the body text of your message and right-clicked,
hoping to see a "reply to message within digest" or equivalent in the
pop-up context-menu, but there wasn't one.
2) I selected some of the body text of your message, and went to the
Message menu, where I could see "reply to sender", "reply to list", and
"reply to all", but no to "reply to message within digest". Using the
"reply to list" item created a reply, but the subject was "Re:
evolution-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 45" rather than "Re: [Evolution] A
digression on digests" (which is what I was expecting), so that didn't
look right.

Is this a new feature that my older version doesn't have, or is it a
plug-in, or am I just looking in the wrong places, or have I just
misunderstood what should happen?

-- All the best,
Nick.



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 12:53:05 +0200
From: Svante Signell <srs kth se>
To: Patrick O'Callaghan <poc usb ve>
Cc: evolution-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mail filter question
Message-ID: <1301655185 32453 86 camel s1499 it kth se>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 07:09 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 07:14 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
What happens if "a or b, delete" is issued before the other two? Is
some
priority order available?

Yes, but mail filter rules [AFAIK] are always processed sequentially;
taking advantage of the sequence is common practice.

Correct. If the rules weren't processed sequentially it wouldn't make
sense to have a STOP rule.

In what order are the filters applied, from top to bottom? When I did
that all my mails sent to two mailing lists were removed...

S and a, copy to folder
S and b, copy to folder
a or b, delete



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Hi

I hope I am complying this time - am really unfamiliar with lists.

Using Evolution 2.30.3 on Linux Mint 10

As Nick says above I have not seen anything that indicates an ability to
respond to a message in the digest. Maybe I am not understanding what I
am seeing but what I see is Reply to Sender, Reply to List or Reply to
All.

Intuitively my intention would be (as in this message) to reply to the
list but change the Subject heading to the desired message subject
heading.

Whether this does what is required I do not know - and not knowing how
such replies are handled is one of the reasons I have always responded
at the top of the digest and usually delete everything below so as not
to send and resend bloated messages.

Maybe this is a "Down Under" thing but most responses (95%) I would get
to emails in this part of the world are nearly always at the top of the
previous message as most people cant be bothered scrolling down through
the old stuff to find a response or the email has been suitably culled
to get rid of the unnecessary excess.

Still willing to learn.

Regards

Peter 




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