Message: 2
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:36:43 -0500
From: "Art Alexion" <art RHD ORG>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Question about IMAP folders
To: "Patrick M. Kelecy" <pkelecy magneticpowermotion com>
Cc: Evolution User Group <evolution-list gnome org>
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On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 08:49 -0500, Patrick M. Kelecy wrote:
1. Organizationally, this is a little confusing. Why are the imap
folders (drafts, sent, and trash) listed under inbox, rather than at
the
same level with it? Having those within the inbox folder doesn't seem
logical. On the IMAP server (looking at it via a webmail client,
Hordemail) it shows the main IMAP account with *four* folders under
it:
inbox, drafts, sent, and trash. That's how I would expect Evo to
handle
it as well.
What you are seeing via webmail is just based on the web programmer's
choice of presentation and may not really reflect the structure on the
server. Evo will basically present you with the structure on the
server. You may be able to move the folders using Evo to suit your
needs. Drag and drop as you would local folders.
2. Are the folders, Junk and Trash (the ones listed at the same level
as
Inbox) local only?
No local folders are listed under "On This Computer"
3. I have a couple of POP mail accounts I would like to switch to
IMAP.
To do this, do I just create new IMAP accounts with the same name and
folder structure and then drag mail from one to the other?
I'm not clear on what you want to accomplish. To begin understanding
IMAP, just envision that Evo is presenting you with the folders as they
appear on your ISP's server. When you do things with folders in Evo,
you are making the changes on the server. It is not the same, but
comparable to using FTP to move files and folders on a server.
--
Art Alexion
MIS
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:01:40 +0000
From: Pete Biggs <pete biggs org uk>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Question about IMAP folders
To: evolution-list gnome org
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1. Organizationally, this is a little confusing. Why are the imap
folders (drafts, sent, and trash) listed under inbox, rather than at the
same level with it? Having those within the inbox folder doesn't seem
logical. On the IMAP server (looking at it via a webmail client,
Hordemail) it shows the main IMAP account with *four* folders under it:
inbox, drafts, sent, and trash. That's how I would expect Evo to handle
it as well.
It depends on how your IMAP server presents the information to Evo. The
way you are describing is, I think, the way Cyrus does it. Certainly my
IMAP server (Dovecot) does it how you want.
2. Are the folders, Junk and Trash (the ones listed at the same level as
Inbox) local only?
The Junk & Trash are virtual folders - Trash is a list of all the mails
marked for deletion - Junk are all those marked as spam.
Note that with IMAP there's no such thing as 'delete' - you mark the
messages for deletion, and then expunge them.
P.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:31:13 +0530
From: Srinivasa Ragavan <sragavan novell com>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] New Mail Notification Applet
To: Des Dougan <des DouganConsulting com>
Cc: Evolution Mailing List <evolution-list gnome org>
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Des,
Evolution 2.22 will have the option (notify for other folders also)that
you are looking for. And regarding the raise of the window, I remember I
received a patch but that still needed some work which didn't happen.
-Srini.
On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 20:31 -0800, Des Dougan wrote:
I'm running 2.12 on SuSE 10.3, and like the new mail notification
applet; however, it only notifies on inboxes, doesn't seem to be
configurable via the Edit, Plugins menu, nor does it raise the Evo
window when clicked on.
Can it be configured to do any of these things?
Thanks,
Des
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:47:20 -0430
From: Patrick O'Callaghan <poc usb ve>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Question about IMAP folders
To: "Patrick M. Kelecy" <pkelecy magneticpowermotion com>
Cc: Evolution User Group <evolution-list gnome org>
Message-ID: <1201540640 11839 7 camel gnat ldc usb ve>
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On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 08:49 -0500, Patrick M. Kelecy wrote:
I'm using Evolution for my email client and have some questions about
how Evolution handles IMAP folders (up until now I've been using POP
only). I created a test IMAP account over the weekend, and noticed that
when I did that Evolution created three folders under that mail account
heading: Inbox, Junk, and Trash. I also noticed that within the Inbox
folder were subfolders (Drafts, Sent, and Trash) that matched folders on
the IMAP server. I assume these are the "subscribed" folders that stay
synchronized. This leads to my questions:
1. Organizationally, this is a little confusing. Why are the imap
folders (drafts, sent, and trash) listed under inbox, rather than at the
same level with it? Having those within the inbox folder doesn't seem
logical. On the IMAP server (looking at it via a webmail client,
Hordemail) it shows the main IMAP account with *four* folders under it:
inbox, drafts, sent, and trash. That's how I would expect Evo to handle
it as well.
The default presentation for Cyrus IMAP servers is for everything to
hang from Inbox, however the server admin can set a flag (system-wide
unfortunately, not per-user) for the alternative layout, known as
"anonymous root", where Inbox is at the same level as the other folders.
My Cyrus server does this so I get the view you prefer, but it's the
server admin who has to make the change. Evo simply follows the server
layout.
The webmail client of course can do whatever it likes regarding
presentation.
2. Are the folders, Junk and Trash (the ones listed at the same level as
Inbox) local only?
Junk and Trash are virtual folders, i.e. they do not exist on the
server. They are simply views into your other folders which select
messages which are deleted or marked as junk. Note that if you have a
Trash folder on the server (perhaps beacuse of some other client) you
will see both Trash folders in Evo. They have different icons so you can
tell which is which, but Evo will not use the server-side folder for
deleted messages. AFAIK there's no way to change this.
3. I have a couple of POP mail accounts I would like to switch to IMAP.
To do this, do I just create new IMAP accounts with the same name and
folder structure and then drag mail from one to the other?
Basically yes, but see my earlier message on this.
poc
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:07:36 -0300
From: Gerencia -Trading New Technologies <admin tnt-lab com ar>
Subject: [Evolution] admin tnt-lab com ar
To: evolution-list gnome org
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To whom it may concern,
I've started using Linux Suse in my company 6 years ago, from version 9
to 10.3. Today I'm installing version ALFA 11.
I'd like toi know the way I can help. I've noticed some useful stuff to
make this soft better.
I find very useful exporting accounts to be able to save them in a
backup, and/ or import them to another PC making the necessary changes.
Another very important thing to import/export are the message filtration
rules because they are useful in all the PCs of a company.
Thanks for your attention.
Best regards,
Estimados
Desde hace 6 a?os que implemente Linux Suse en mi empresa con evolution
desde la versi?n 9 a la 10.3. Hoy estoy instalando la versi?n ALFA 11.
Desear?a saber como colaborar. He visto algunas cosas que serian muy
?tiles para mejorar este soft.
Encuentro muy ?til el poder exportar las cuentas para poder resguardarla
en un backup y/o poder importarlas en distintas PC haciendo los cambios
pertinentes.
Otra cosa muy importante para exportar e importar son las reglas de
filtrado de mensajes, ya que estas sirven para todas las PC de una
empresas.
Desde Ya muchas gracias
atte
-
Garcia Traba Ariel H
Socio - Presidente
Trading New Technologies S.A.
+ 54 +11 4137 6776 (Rot + fax)
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:43:33 +0200
From: Mark J Elkins <mje posix co za>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Switching from POP to IMAP?
To: Evolution User Group <evolution-list gnome org>
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Art Alexion wrote:
On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 09:42 -0500, Patrick M. Kelecy wrote:
So my question is how exactly do I make this switch? Is it just a
matter
of setting up the corresponding IMAP accounts in Evo, and the mail
server will take care of the rest, or is there more involved?
Nothing more to do, mail server will take care of the rest.
And this all just works.....
Then the other day - I added a Submission port to my Exim server - and
trolled around Evolution-2.12.1 (and Google) looking for hints of where
to add this...
Never found any info.
To 'fix',
Edit --> Mail-Accounts --> (appropriate account) --> Sending Email -->
Server: ... then append ":587" to the server name and it works just fine.
(Thats a Colon and Port Number)
The SMTP "Submission" port is usually configured with some sort of
authentication - so that needs appropriate configuration too.
Later discovered this colon + port principal in the online help under
"Receiving Email"
