Jeff: I went home last night and checked out my Evo where I use imap to connect to a remote server. No dot folders actually show up. Tom All Tusonix outgoing e-mail has been scanned for viruses On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 16:49, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
who cares what mozilla does? if mozilla jumps off a bridge, should we do it? I don't think so. the imap specifications (rfc2060) states that it is the SERVERS OPTION to hide folders from a LIST "" "*" query. If the server doesn't hide them, then the client has NO CHOICE but to assume that these are valid mailbox folders. dot files are PERFECTLY VALID IMAP FOLDER NAMES and thus should be treated as such by the client. if you have a complaint, either go complain to your imap server vendor or to Mark Crispin <mrc washington edu>, who, funnily enough, is probably right down the hall from mr otterson and is also responsible for the implementation of uw.imapd (or at least the initial implementation). So there you have it. Jeff On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 18:42, Thomas Spuhler wrote:Scott, You are right, Mozilla has no such problem and doesn't show any hidden (.) folders. Tom On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 15:39, Scott Otterson wrote:Of course, the point is that the mail clients almost everybody is familiar with don't require this. It is also cumbersome, confusing, and totally unnecessary. Scott On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 14:29, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:I already told you: if you don't want to see dot files, then don't subscribe to them. or delete them off your imap server. I don't care. Jeff On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 17:03, Scott Otterson wrote:Does the spec tell you to display an email if you click on it? No, but this is conventional email client behavior. If you literally implement only what is in the spec, I don't know what you'd have but it is certain that nobody could use it. Similarly, not showing dotfiles is an IMAP client convention. People expect it, and your client is for people, afterall. Scott On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 12:12, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:I invite you to read the bloody spec and show me where it says to hide dot files. if you can't find it, then I'm not implementing it. period. Jeff On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 15:14, Scott Otterson wrote:If Outlook and Mozilla (>90% of all IMAP clients by user) don't display dotfiles, then that IS the convention. Evolution isn't following it. Scott On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 12:02, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:if there was a convention, it would be in the server implementation - WHERE IT BELONGS Jeff On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 14:53, Scott Otterson wrote:Unix again... Outlook and Mozilla -- two of the most popular non-Unix IMAP clients -- do not display dotfiles, regardless of what LIST returns. There's a convention here that evolution isn't following. Scott On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 11:23, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:hiding dot files is a unix filesystem thing, it is not an imap thing. if folders starting with a . were meant to be hidden by imap clients, then the server simply wouldn't return them in the LIST query, now would it? Jeff On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 13:28, Scott Otterson wrote:I don't see what the OS has to do with this. Mozilla and Outlook -- neither of which require Unix -- hide the dotfiles. If two of the most popular IMAP clients handle this situation gracefully, then this is starting to look like an OS-independent IMAP convention. Has anybody noticed how other IMAP clients handle dotfiles? Scott On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 10:07, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:imap != unix filesystem period. Jeff On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 13:06, Scott Otterson wrote:Well, manually subscribing to a bunch of folders is a way to handle this. But Mozilla and Outlook are smarter than that... can't evolution be too? On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 09:45, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:this is a server issue, not a client issue. if your server uses dot files for state info, then it should not be listing them when we query for folders. however, you *could* simply have evo show only subscribed folders and just not subscribe to the dot folders. Jeff On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 12:21, Scott Otterson wrote:Is there a way to set up evolution to not display IMAP status dot folders? The UW IMAP server I'm hooked to has a lot of folders beginning with a period. I never look at them because they contain account info, spam filter status and so on. They're invisible in the folder views of mozilla, outlook express, etc., but they fill up the screen in evolution. Is there an evolution XML file somewhere that I can change? Thanks, Scott _______________________________________________ evolution maillist - evolution lists ximian com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution_______________________________________________ evolution maillist - evolution lists ximian com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution_______________________________________________ evolution maillist - evolution lists ximian com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution_______________________________________________ evolution maillist - evolution lists ximian com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
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